On Di, 02.10.18 14:34, Hans de Goede (hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > Ok fair enough. Keeping it easy for users to try out hibernate is > a valid argument. This is just weird. Why would GNOME expose a button to regular user that reads "hey, press me, please use this feature, but it's not going to work, and nobody is going to help you with it or fix bugs, kthxbye". That's just awful UI. Quite frankly, this is quite ridiculous. GNOME is not the only user of this, we shouldn't expose crap that doesn't work in the UI, regardless what the UI looks like. GNOME has every right to assume that what the underlying layers advertise works. And when it doesn't then the underlying layers should stop advertising this. If the kernel folks apprently are not willing to clean this up, nor stop advertising its availability, then I guess we can mask this out in the systemd RPM, but what a mess, now systemd.rpm suddenly becomes the dumping ground for policy decisions when kernel code is good enough and when it isn't, and when the kernel maintainers want to support something or not. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list -- kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kernel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx