On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On (Wed) 06 May 2015 [11:45:38], Harald Hoyer wrote: >>> >>>> One possibility is to enable kdbus by default until alpha phase. >>> >>> The problem with that is all systemd testing is useless once we're out >>> of Alpha. Similar things have happened in the past. >>> >> >> Which is precisely the point. >> >> Alpha needs to be released with this applied and enabled to be useful to >> anybody. ( and this needs to be applied and enabled up to that point ) > > Only if it's being proposed as a feature of that release and to be > default, this isn't part of the above proposal. > >> Around that point 4.3 should have been released ( or about to be released ) >> and either kdbus will be included or it should be clear that it will be >> included in 4.4 or never but surrounding bugs around the changes to Dracut >> implementing integration with kdbus will need to have started to receive >> wider exposure and tested and hopefully have most bugs flushed out otherwise >> you will be caught in spiral of delays if the intent is to include atleast >> Dracut with kdbus/integration changes in RHEL 8 > > I think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves, the proposal is > including it in the mainline Fedora kernel to enable easier testng, > and anything outside of Fedora isn't really our problem when we're > looking at rawhide TBH. Well, rawhide and rawhide only so it does play into what happens at branch time. But yes, I think the proposal seems to cover this well enough and we can worry about it more when we come to that point. > Let's get patches in to enable it be more easily tested first... I'm waiting on the next posting of them before we bring them in. It sounds like the proposed item 4 is already covered by the "kdbus" mechanism that systemd looks for so as long as that doesn't change, I think we're OK. As soon as I see the refreshed patchset I'll look at getting them in. josh _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel
