Re: kdbus and Fedora

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>> On (Wed) 06 May 2015 [11:45:38], Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>
>>> One possibility is to enable kdbus by default until alpha phase.
>>
>> The problem with that is all systemd testing is useless once we're out
>> of Alpha.  Similar things have happened in the past.
>>
>
> Which is precisely the point.
>
> Alpha needs to be released with this applied and enabled  to be useful to
> anybody.  ( and this needs to be applied and enabled up to that point )

Only if it's being proposed as a feature of that release and to be
default, this isn't part of the above proposal.

> Around that point 4.3 should have been released ( or about to be released )
> and either kdbus will be included or it should be clear that it will be
> included in 4.4 or never but surrounding bugs around the changes to Dracut
> implementing integration with kdbus will need to have started to receive
> wider exposure and tested and hopefully have most bugs flushed out otherwise
> you will be caught in spiral of delays if the intent is to include atleast
> Dracut with kdbus/integration changes in RHEL 8

I think we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves, the proposal is
including it in the mainline Fedora kernel to enable easier testng,
and anything outside of Fedora isn't really our problem when we're
looking at rawhide TBH.

Let's get patches in to enable it be more easily tested first...
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