Re: kernel man pages

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 06/05/2014 05:38 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Josh Stone <jistone@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 06/05/2014 07:02 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 06:05:50PM +0430, navid Rahimi wrote:
>>>>> is there any man page for kernel in fedora ?? in debian
>>>>
>>>> No.  The kernel-doc package contained the html equivalent of the man
>>>> pages, but I don't believe we ever shipped the man9 pages themselves.
>>>
>>> Actually F19 still has man9, and you're the one who dropped it in F20:
>>>
>>>     commit d3cca19fc2a55e3588284626e24e7f7e8c1effd1
>>>     Author: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>     Date:   Tue Aug 6 16:52:31 2013 -0400
>>>
>>>         Don't package API man pages in -doc (rhbz 993905)
>>>
>>>
>>> ref: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=993905
>>
>> Oh, indeed you are correct.  Apparently I forgot that.
>>
>> In any case, Fedora doesn't plan on shipping the kernel docs any longer.
>
> May I ask why not? As a kernel developer I found them very useful. I'll gladly
> admit that they should probably be in a separate sub-package, not -doc itself,
> although if you're dropping that altogether then it does not matter.
>
> Not having them at all is quite inconvenient, and I quite often find myself
> missing them ...  Maybe drop the html docs, and re-introduce the man pages?

1) The Base OS group is pushing to reduce build requires for the Base
packages as much as possible.  Just building the documentation that,
to be quite honest, very few people ever read required crazy things to
be dragged into the buildroot.

2) The way they were handled in the kernel.spec is terrible and
required a special koji hack that nothing else needs.

If someone wants to add a completely separate kernel-doc or
kernel-manpage package then I'm all for it.  I'll even be happy to
review it.  However, I'm not adding it back as a subpackage to
kernel.spec.

josh
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