On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 04:25:03PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > On 05/02/2013 09:06 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:13:18PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > >> Am 04.04.2013 22:17, schrieb Peter Jones: > >>> On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 07:48:14AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: > >>>> Hi Josh, > >>>> > >>>> as mentioned on IRC, here is the patch for the rawhide kernel.spec. > >>>> > >>>> This patch is part of an upstream coordination, intended to unify the various > >>>> ways distributions handle: > >>>> > >>>> - installation of kernels in the system > >>>> - create the matching initrds; hooking up the various implementations of > >>>> initramfs generators into the kernel package installation process > >>>> - optionally/automatically create bootable rescue images to be able to recover > >>>> from failures: > >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DracutHostOnly > >>>> > >>>> All the above functionality is provided by the “kernel-install” tool: > >>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/kernel-install.html > >>>> > >>>> It features: > >>>> - flexible hookup/plugin directories to manage kernel installation and > >>>> uninstallation. initrd, bootloader, rescue image management, all plug into > >>>> that facility. > >>>> > >>>> - strict separation of distribution-supplied logic and local customization > >>>> logic; system administrators are able to overwrite and replace/extend any part > >>>> of the default logic if needed > >>>> > >>>> - hide distribution-specific logic behind a standardized command line interface > >>>> > >>>> - unify the custom kernel installation from the source tree with the usual > >>>> kernel package installation; like the current /sbin/installkernel > >>> > >>> Is there git repo for this other than just the normal systemd repo? > >>> When I look there right now I don't see very much - it looks like it > >>> only handles gummy-boot - before we do this, what's the plan for all the > >>> architectures we support that /don't/ work with gummy-boot style configs? > >>> Right now that's basically everything except x86, and even that isn't > >>> really fully fleshed out yet. > >>> > >>> Too be honest, kernel-install as it stands is a bit distasteful - what's > >>> the point of breaking everything out into plugin directories if you're > >>> not going to handle generation of /boot/loader/entries through a plugin? > >>> That means if you're hacking on it or just trying to figure out what > >>> happened on a machine, you have to go looking at both the plugin > >>> directory and the script that runs it. All of the stuff to manage > >>> /boot/loader/entries should be moved into a plugin to avoid that. > >>> > >>> It should be possible to re-factor new-kernel-package to be something we > >>> can run from your plugin directories, but we should talk about what that > >>> looks like before we do something like this to the kernel package and > >>> simply break everything. > >>> > >> > >> We want to have a distro agnostic API for installing the kernel. new-kernel-pkg > >> is fedora only and with systemd we provide tools for every distribution. > >> > >> dracut (also not fedora-only) already ships with a plugin for kernel-install. > >> > >> Other distributions start to make use of kernel-install right now. > >> > >> Changing the fedora kernel.spec today would not *break* anything, because > >> kernel-install is currently patched in fedora to call new-kernel-pkg. > >> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/systemd.git/tree/kernel-install-grubby.patch > >> > >> It would be great to convert grubby to hook into the kernel-install callouts > >> instead of being called from new-kernel-package, but this is an optional next > >> step, that you would need to decide on, if you agree. It does not affect the > >> introduction of kernel-install at this point, nothing should break. > > > > So while things aren't going to break, this doesn't really address > > Peter's question of why the loader entries aren't also handled via > > plugins, does it? > > > > I'd like to get some resolution on this by 3.10-rc1 so we can get it > > into rawhide, but it does seem like a fair question. Maybe I missed the > > answer somewhere. > > > > josh > > fixed > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=8f51399e75e5d0d0741ecb18c549a57840bd1cc3 Great. I'm working on adding your kernel.spec patch today. The changes I've included are the bump in the dracut version, prereq'ing systemd >= 203-2 instead of 200, and dropping the depmod call in the posttrans macro. Assuming it works fine in my testing on a rawhide VM, it should make rawhide tomorrow. If I hit a problem, I'll reply here. If anyone else has questions/comments, now would be the time to make them. josh _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel