On 05/02/2013 09:06 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:13:18PM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: >> Am 04.04.2013 22:17, schrieb Peter Jones: >>> On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 07:48:14AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote: >>>> Hi Josh, >>>> >>>> as mentioned on IRC, here is the patch for the rawhide kernel.spec. >>>> >>>> This patch is part of an upstream coordination, intended to unify the various >>>> ways distributions handle: >>>> >>>> - installation of kernels in the system >>>> - create the matching initrds; hooking up the various implementations of >>>> initramfs generators into the kernel package installation process >>>> - optionally/automatically create bootable rescue images to be able to recover >>>> from failures: >>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DracutHostOnly >>>> >>>> All the above functionality is provided by the “kernel-install” tool: >>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/kernel-install.html >>>> >>>> It features: >>>> - flexible hookup/plugin directories to manage kernel installation and >>>> uninstallation. initrd, bootloader, rescue image management, all plug into >>>> that facility. >>>> >>>> - strict separation of distribution-supplied logic and local customization >>>> logic; system administrators are able to overwrite and replace/extend any part >>>> of the default logic if needed >>>> >>>> - hide distribution-specific logic behind a standardized command line interface >>>> >>>> - unify the custom kernel installation from the source tree with the usual >>>> kernel package installation; like the current /sbin/installkernel >>> >>> Is there git repo for this other than just the normal systemd repo? >>> When I look there right now I don't see very much - it looks like it >>> only handles gummy-boot - before we do this, what's the plan for all the >>> architectures we support that /don't/ work with gummy-boot style configs? >>> Right now that's basically everything except x86, and even that isn't >>> really fully fleshed out yet. >>> >>> Too be honest, kernel-install as it stands is a bit distasteful - what's >>> the point of breaking everything out into plugin directories if you're >>> not going to handle generation of /boot/loader/entries through a plugin? >>> That means if you're hacking on it or just trying to figure out what >>> happened on a machine, you have to go looking at both the plugin >>> directory and the script that runs it. All of the stuff to manage >>> /boot/loader/entries should be moved into a plugin to avoid that. >>> >>> It should be possible to re-factor new-kernel-package to be something we >>> can run from your plugin directories, but we should talk about what that >>> looks like before we do something like this to the kernel package and >>> simply break everything. >>> >> >> We want to have a distro agnostic API for installing the kernel. new-kernel-pkg >> is fedora only and with systemd we provide tools for every distribution. >> >> dracut (also not fedora-only) already ships with a plugin for kernel-install. >> >> Other distributions start to make use of kernel-install right now. >> >> Changing the fedora kernel.spec today would not *break* anything, because >> kernel-install is currently patched in fedora to call new-kernel-pkg. >> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/systemd.git/tree/kernel-install-grubby.patch >> >> It would be great to convert grubby to hook into the kernel-install callouts >> instead of being called from new-kernel-package, but this is an optional next >> step, that you would need to decide on, if you agree. It does not affect the >> introduction of kernel-install at this point, nothing should break. > > So while things aren't going to break, this doesn't really address > Peter's question of why the loader entries aren't also handled via > plugins, does it? > > I'd like to get some resolution on this by 3.10-rc1 so we can get it > into rawhide, but it does seem like a fair question. Maybe I missed the > answer somewhere. > > josh fixed http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=8f51399e75e5d0d0741ecb18c549a57840bd1cc3 _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel
