On 09/01/2011 09:44 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > (Yes, we are aware of the fact that some people want to stick with F14 > to avoid Gnome3. That's outside of the scope of the kernel and we > really don't want to discuss it here.) Thanks for the update and thoughts. I'd just add that the fear of gnome-3 is, or perhaps should be, less of an issue. We have KDE, LXDE, XFCE etc - everyone I know has dropped Gnome and moved to something else - and this only impacts laptop/desktop setups. F15 on the desktop/laptop is moving ahead nicely I think. Rather, I think it is the fear of systemd not yet being reliable (on F15 anyway), especially for network coupled services being started at boot without human interaction, that is likely the bigger concern. This is slowing F15 adoption on non-desktop/server type setups. Testing systemd on laptop/desktop - gives folks the opportunity to explore how well systemd is working and to enjoy the newer kernels. Since we're not supporting upstart in F15, it does make sense to try and move 2.6.40 onto F14 to hold folks until they get more comfortable (presumably F16) that systemd will be trustworthy for standalone boxes. It seems feasable so to me, but does require updates to mdadm, module-init-tools, procps and Mesa (and maybe more). If I remember rightly, I needed those to test newer kernel on F14. Also, 2.6.40.4 is running beautifully for me on F15 - auto sched is rather brilliant - esp when compiling -j8 (or whatever) .. thank you! gene _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel
