On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:24:54PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > I dunno. at this point, I'm torn over whether to keep pushing in this direction. > The spec is already getting ugly with all those damn %defines. > If everyone is going to end up running -nodebug, and we're going to keep asking them to reproduce on the debug variant, what's the point of not just continuing as we're doing now? Having people flip flop between -nodebug and default between release and not is just silly, we might as well just use -nodebug by default all the time. (I mean, really, the amount of useful stuff that -debug has caught versus the sheer amount of noise it generates is just ridiculous.) Alternately, since we now have no-frozen-rawhide, maybe we just institute a policy where rawhide runs with -debug on permanently, and we flip the switch when we branch on released kernels. 90% of the benefits from -debug will get caught then, and the other 10% wouldn't've got caught anyway since the bugs won't even be found until three weeks after release when there's now a couple hundred thousand people running it. --Kyle. _______________________________________________ kernel mailing list kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel