A few weeks ago the discussion about considering making some of the things in the fedora kernel not-a-module came up, but then died out. I'd like to revisit that discussion with a very specific proposal of things to turn into built-in. For me, there are 3 key reasons to make certain things not-a-module: 1) Built-in code is easier to debug/diagnose. This may sound weird, but really, things inside the vmlinux allow for much better automated bug diagnostics/analysis. ( and the www.kerneloops.org site uses these, but can only do the more advanced automatic analysis on the built-in oopses) 2) Built-in code tends to be smaller and faster; there is a space and TLB overhead associated with modules (several datastructures get rounded up to 4K boundaries, and modules are vmalloc'd which has TLB overhead) 3) A system with key functionality not-in-the-vmlinux is more fragile if something goes wrong With this in mind, I came up with the list below, I've split it into 4 categories. I would like to ask feedback on this list, with the goal of getting these changes made to fedora 10 asap to then get a wider audience input to see if anything breaks. Category 1: Always loaded anyway -------------------------------- Rationale: Since we load these always anyway, why bother making it modules - ata_generic, pata_acpi - libata - sg, sd_mod, scsi_mod - ext3, jbd, mbcache Category 2: Always loaded in default install -------------------------------------------- Rationale: yes you can turn off your firewall.. but nobody should do that. The others are default-loaded as well - ip_tables, iptable_filter - ip6_tables, ip6table_filter - dm_mod - ipv6 - battery, ac, button, video, output Category 3: popular/very common and makes the system more robust ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rationale: having these built in makes the system more robust, also in case of failure - ahci (default storage for all new systems; means that there the system always has the / device driver) - ehci_hcd (means you have a USB keyboard early) - cpufreq_ondemand (means the cpu can slow down for power/thermal) - acpi_cpufreq (means the cpu can slow down for power/thermal) Category 4: VERY popular ------------------------ Rationale: pretty much always loaded in default installs - snd_seq_dummy, snd_seq, snd_seq_device, snd_pcm, snd_timer, snd_page_alloc, snd _______________________________________________ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list