On 5/10/21 1:04 PM, Temlakos wrote:
On 5/10/21 10:58 AM, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 5/10/21 11:32 AM, Temlakos wrote:
On 5/10/21 10:13 AM, Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 5/10/21 10:56 AM, Temlakos wrote:
Everyone:
Ever since the latest massive kde5 update (Saturday 8 May 2021), I
have not been able to use the task bar to switch between open
windows - and sometimes not even to start certain applications that
have taskbar icons. Anything in the System Tray is all right - like
the dnfdragora update icon, the clipboard, the new-device icon, or
the volume icon. But anything for an open window? Forget it. Every
time I click on such an object, the computer pauses for about ten
or fifteen seconds, during which it accepts no input from mouse or
keyboard - and then blanks the screen, abruptly closes all open
windows, and restarts the session. Most of the time the session is
all right, but not always - in which case I restart the machine.
It's not the kernel. I've tried this with all three versions of the
kernel I now have on board. (They're all three F34 builds by now.)
It's one or more of the applications that are part of KDE Plasma.
But I despair of telling which one. That update had 185 programs in
it, and only four of them are referable to the kernel.
I can always use the Alt-Tab trick to browse open windows to get to
any open window I want. I can always start most programs through
the Applications Menu; that icon works. I /think/ I can start one
instance of Dolphin - but starting a new instance requires the task
bar, so that's out. The only way to open two instances of Dolphin
is to connect an external device, thus giving me an excuse to open
that device in Dolphin and then switch views. (And another thing:
movement and copying from one Dolphin instance to another is also
broken. I have to use the clipboard as an intermediate step.
Otherwise Dolphin complains that it /can't read/ what I'm trying to
move or copy.)
In other news, my bug reporting system is broken and won't report
anything, and the KDE Daemon keeps crashing at the beginning of
every session - though I can't tell whether I'm losing anything by
that.
Has anyone else noticed this issue?
Can someone having an intact reporting system, or an upstream
channel, try to report this?
I wonder if the update didn't fully complete? Does this show any
plasma/kf5 related updates?
yum list updates
No. No updates available at this time, from any repository. Whatever
packages I got, the update went through. Ergo, I didn't get every
package that needed to change, or the latest Plasma/KF5 update
contains a bug or bugs related to the Task Bar.
Are yum running plasma under Wayland or X11 ?
As far as I know, I'm using X11. I don't remember explicitly
transferring to Wayland. I have been upgrading by the command line for
every iteration since F21 at least, and so I should always have kept the
same interface, which should be X11. I wouldn't know how to transfer to
Wayland; I'm not even sure whether that is a valid interface for desktop
hardware.
Default in Fedora 34 is wayland. Do this in Konsole and see if there is
any kwin/plasma stuff that comes back:
ps ax|grep wayland
Temlakos
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