On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 12:10 PM <erich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm considering moving Fedora Jam from KDE Plasma to GNOME. There are > multiple reasons for this, and I think part of it would be beneficial > to the overall GNOME and Fedora communities as it would be a way to be > helping improve the situation in GNOME that exist as the biggest > objections from the community of musicians and Linux audio enthusiasts > in the overall community. > > The biggest objections are resource usage, since the more resources > that are in use, the more it tends to interfere with real-time audio > processes, causing buffer overruns and/or underruns. These overruns and > underruns are known as Xruns. The fewer Xruns, the better, as Xruns > cause pops during recording. When doing real-time audio work, you want > to have as low of latency as possible which requires as small of a > buffer as possible. The goal is to have a small buffer to get minimal > latency while avoiding Xruns. > > Unfortunately, GNOME has, since 3.0, traditionally interfered with > these processes and caused Xruns. My goal, by moving Fedora Jam from > Plasma to GNOME, is to help GNOME improve this situation. > I would personally be very sad if Fedora Jam switched from KDE to GNOME. To me, KDE has always been the home for creatives, and it shows with the excellent Qt/KDE based software for auditory and visual creativity. From my perspective, KDE is the environment that creative people can feel at home in. > The other reason for switching away from Plasma is the overall negative > attitude I see from Fedora KDE users and former Fedora KDE > contributors. It seems to be an attitude against the progress of > improving the Linux desktop for the better, and simply complaining. I > know some of this attitude comes from Red Hat dropping KDE from being a > desktop in REHL, among other changes. That attitude is regressive, and > does nothing to help the community if all you do is complain. I could > name names, but for the sake of the "Friends" foundation, I will not. > As a Fedora KDE user, I hope I'm not lumped in that bucket. :) While I am *deeply* disappointed at Red Hat for removing KDE from RHEL, that is mostly because people seem to think KDE is no good because Red Hat dropped it rather than it being due to lack of engineers to support it. However, one thing I have been very disappointed about is the attitude of some folks who are not actively involved or contributing to Fedora KDE disparaging virtually everyone else and the work they do. In general, it's very much against our tenants, our expectation of being excellent to each other, and our philosophy as a community. As a member of many major groups in Fedora, including the KDE SIG, I do not personally tolerate such disparagement. If there is a technical foundation for disagreement, then there's something to discuss, but personally attacking people is never okay. If I have the ability to do something about it, I will. > Anyhow, I'd love to see a discussion about this as well as any guidance > toward making this change. I know there would have to be a new > kickstart along with Koji pointing toward said kickstart. I could make > the kickstart, but I think I'd need Koji to look for it. > The mechanics of making such a change are fairly straightforward: change the fedora-jam KS to switch from the KDE base to the GNOME base in the fedora-kickstarts repository: https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/master/f/fedora-live-jam_kde.ks You'll need to re-rationalize your customizations on top of that, but it's doable. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
