On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 11:56, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-02-13 at 00:34 +0100, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > This isn't a KDE thing, it's systemd. See e.g. [1] and [2]. > > > > [1] https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=12994 > > [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#Kill_user_processes_on_logout > > I know what causes it. My point is that the problem occurs with KDE and > other desktops, but not apparently with Gnome, so it would be > interesting to know why this is. Does systemd treat Gnome specially, or > does Gnome have some kind of built-in workaraound that avoids this > issue? Are you sure that this doesn't happen with Gnome? There was a change in systemd some years ago [1] to KillUSerProcesses by default, and if you follow the trail, this triggered lively debate. Particularly, we had [2] in Fedora, and there was even a change proposal [3] to follow the decision upstream, but it was first delayed and then never implemented [4]. Maybe Zbigniew (in CC), the owner, could tell us why. And maybe this topic could be resurrected in devel if there's renewed interest, but you are probably going to find opposition; because this is fine for multi-user workstations, but it breaks things in servers. IMHO, in a perfect world, each flavour (Workstation, Server, KDE...) should decide and explicitly set the default option. Iñaki [1] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/3005 [2] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/ZNQW72UP36UAFMX53HPFFQTWTQDZVJ3M/ [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KillUserProcesses_by_default [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1357426 _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
