On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:02 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 12:33 PM Troy Dawson <tdawson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 7:32 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 8:36 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:29 AM Troy Dawson <tdawson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to summarize. Hopefully I get correctly what people have said. > > > > > Feel free to continue to comment and suggest. > > > > > At some point I'd like to put this on a EPEL KDE page for future guidance. > > > > > > > > > > * Follow the KDE LTS branches as much as possible. > > > > > ** qt5 > > > > > *** RHEL's version of qt packages will dictate this. If RHEL's > > > > > versions change, adjust with them. > > > > > *** RHEL 8 qt5 is 5.11.1 > > > > > **** There are about 10 packages that have to stay at 5.11 due to > > > > > RHEL's packages. The rest can get built with the current LTS, 5.12.x > > > > > *** https://download.qt.io/official_releases/qt/5.12/ > > > > > ** plasma > > > > > *** Follow the LTS stream that corresponds with our qt5 > > > > > *** The plasma LTS stream that corresponds with qt 5.12 is plasma 5.18 > > > > > **** plasma 5.18 will not be out until Feb. or March 2020. > > > > > **** Keep with our current version until them, which is 5.15 > > > > > *** https://download.kde.org/stable/plasma/ > > > > > *** Update all plasma at one time, if possible > > > > > ** framework (kf5) > > > > > *** Use the stream that corresponds with our plasma > > > > > *** When plasma 5.18 comes out, that will be kf5 5.66 > > > > > **** Keep with our current version until plasma is updated, which is 5.59 > > > > > *** https://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/ > > > > > *** Update all kf5 at one time, if possible > > > > > ** KDE apps > > > > > *** Let the version be the decision of each app maintainer > > > > > > > > > > * For qt5, plasma and kf5, have a group be the maintainer. > > > > > * For apps, it depends on the app. Each app can be maintained by > > > > > either a group or individual. > > > > > > > > > > * module vs non-module > > > > > ** The above plan will all be for non-module kde components. This is > > > > > what people get straight out of epel. > > > > > ** There will be at least one kde module. > > > > > *** Any epel kde modules will not be enabled by default. These are > > > > > only for people who want to test with a newer kde, or want to run the > > > > > latest kde and don't mind breaking some compatibility. > > > > > *** There will be a kde-rawhide module. > > > > > **** The kde-rawhide module will track the fedora kde packages. > > > > > **** The module will be updated once a month, building whatever is in > > > > > Fedora rawhide at that time. > > > > > *** There might be other kde modules, but none are currently planned. > > > > > > > > > > As I said, this plan is open to suggestions and comments, but here is > > > > > my plan of getting things going. > > > > > It's sorta logical that I be the person who at least starts things, > > > > > even if we are going to maintain them as a group. > > > > > If nobody has any objections, on Monday, Dec. 16, I was planning on > > > > > starting building kde in standard epel, following the above > > > > > guidelines. > > > > > I would build the qt5, plasma and k5 packages, and open bugzilla > > > > > requests for all the rest. > > > > > For most everything, I will just be pulling over what is in epel8-playground. > > > > > Hopefully we can get everything built, and in bodhi, by the end of the > > > > > week. They can then sit and be tested while people are celebrating > > > > > the end of the year holidays. And hopefully, at the beginning of the > > > > > new year, they will all be ready and in the epel8 repository. > > > > > > > > > > Troy > > > > > > > > Starting the builds for regular epel8. > > > > As stated above, we will stay with the versions that we currently have > > > > in playground. > > > > Many of the qt5 packages have already been built, thank you for that. > > > > Since those were built with the epel8-playground versions and patches, > > > > that will work just fine. > > > > > > > > Troy > > > > > > So, all the qt5, kf5, and plasma packages are done (except 2), along > > > with any kde libraries needed for those to build. > > > The count is: 194 built. about 140 not built. > > > Before I started out on filing 140 bugzilla's for packages to get into > > > epel8, I thought I'd step back a bit. > > > Although we don't expect epel8 KDE to be as feature complete as > > > Fedora, we do expect users to have a good general experience. > > > Since the installation of kde on epel8 is by using the comps groups, I > > > was thinking of dividing work by those. > > > > > > kde-desktop > > > This is the group people install if they want KDE. > > > I will add all the kde elements of this to my default list (with > > > qt5*, kf5* and plasma*). > > > All the non-kde elements I will open a bugzilla, if they aren't > > > already available. > > > > > > kde-apps > > > kde-media > > > Although these are optional, they are likely the main groups people install. > > > I will file bugzilla's for all of these not already built > > > > > > kde-education > > > kde-office > > > kde-software-development > > > kf5-software-development > > > These are all optional, and usually only installed based on the > > > users preference. > > > I will not file bugzilla's for the packages in these. > > > If people want them in epel8, feel free to build them and/or open > > > bugzilla's for them. > > > > > > Troy > > > > I'm so sorry for not updating my progress on this. I kept wanting to > > having everything ready, but then there was always just this one > > package that needed something. And now it's been over a month since I > > talked about the plan. So, here is the progress. > > > > kde-desktop > > - All main packages done. > > - One dependency package still in testing.[1] - karma would be appreciated > > > > kde-media > > - All done > > > > kde-apps > > - Everything built, in testing [2] - karma would be appreciated. > > > > kde-office > > - okular - Unless someone else already has, I'll be filing a bugzilla > > today for this. > > - Everything else ... if there is something in there you want, please > > file a bugzilla. > > > > kde-education > > kde-software-development > > kf5-software-development > > - If there are packages in there you want, please file bugzilla's for them. > > > > **** How to Install and/or Test > > 1 - ensure epel is installed, and enabled > > 2 - ensure codreadybuilder or PowerTools is enabled > > 3 - dnf --enablerepo=epel-testing group install kde-desktop > > 4 - (optional) dnf --enablerepo=epel-testing group install kde-media kde-apps > > > > Note: There are some packages that show up as "No match", these > > packages were not able to be built[3] due to missing rhel8 devel > > packages.[4] > > At some point this will get fixed, so I will leave them in the comps > > file. But there were also a few qt4 packages listed that I'll try to > > remove from the comps file. > > > > Thank you for your patience. > > Troy > > > > [1] - https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-e4b9339d23 > > [2] - https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-00865efa86 > > [3] -akregator > > dnfdragora > > kde-partitionmanager > > kaddressbook > > kget > > kmail > > korganizer > > kpat > > kontact > > pinentry-qt > > plasma-discover > > plasma-nm* > > [4] - https://pagure.io/epel/issue/62 > > dnfdragora is currently blocked on a major bug in rpm that was > backported to RHEL 8: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1783346 > > Ya, and it's not really a "KDE" package, just in the group list. I included it in the list because it shows up when you do the group install. 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