Hi, We discussed many times about the set of applications available by default on the live ISO. I extracted the list of default programs available on the live images of Fedora 27 beta for Workstation edition (from the Activities overview) and KDE spin (from the Application Launcher). Few data points: = Gnome: 39 unique items complete list: see the attached f27_beta_workstation_all.txt = Plasma: 71 unique items, but 83 total (some in different categories) complete list: see the attached f27_beta_kde_all.txt 24 items have a one-o-one mapping between the two sets. There are two different issues that should be solved separately: 1) reduce the number of unique items 2) reduce the duplication I'm not sure how to properly address the point 2), as the menu spec allows applications to be in different categories. I'm not even sure that it is a real issue for the testing, so I will leave it out for now. Regarding poing 1), based also on the previous discussions on IRC, you can find below few initial proposals: == most likely can be removed == Wallet Management Tool for KDE4 (KWalletManager4) -> KWallet/KF5 can handle KWallet/Qt4 applications since 5.35 User Manager (KUser) -> removed upstream; Plasma provides a KCM module News Reader (KNode) -> not for a live Instant Messenger Contact (IM Contacts) -> part of KDE Telepathy KDE Instant Messenger Log Viewer (KDE IM Log Viewer) -> part of KDE Telepathy File Manager (Krusader) -> no need on a live File Manager (Krusader - root-mode) -> see Krusader MS Word DOCX Export Filter (MS Word DOCX Export Filter) -> glitch, removed upstream, just cherry-pick the patch Download with AMZ Downloader (AMZ Downloader) -> Disable the dependency from Amarok BitTorrent Client (KTorrent) -> not really needed on a live Color Chooser (KColorChooser) -> Plasma provides a plasmoid for that == maybe remove == D-Bus Debugger (Qt5 QDbusViewer) -> maybe move to dev packages, or its own subpackage? Minesweeper-like Game (KMines) Patience Card Game (KPatience) Mahjongg Solitaire (KMahjongg) Speech Synthesizer Frontend (KMouth) -> not required for speech synthesis (applications use the underlying library directly) Network Folder Wizard (KNetAttach) -> less relevant for a live Desktop Sharing (Krfb) -> server, can be installed later == more discussion probably required for a removal (?) == Find Files/Folders (KFind) -> dolphin search is different, maybe can be dropped Feed Reader (Akregator) Disk Burning (K3b) Remote Desktop Client (KRDC) Screen Ruler (KRuler) == further discussion == Find a way to see if the minor programs from KDE PIM can be exposed differently maybe Ciao -- Luigi
Plasma = Administration Firewall Configuration (Firewall) Install & Remove Software (dnfdragora) Change the default system language (Language) = Development D-Bus Debugger (Qt5 QDbusViewer) = Games == Board Games: Mahjongg Solitaire (KMahjongg) == Card Games: Patience Card Game (KPatience) == Tactics & Strategy: Minesweeper-like Game (KMines) = Graphics Document Viewer (Okular) KDE Image Viewer (Gwenview) Paint Program (KolourPaint) == More Applications Color Chooser (KColorChooser) Screen Ruler (KRuler) = Internet BitTorrent Client (KTorrent) Contact Print Theme Editor (Contact Print Theme Editor) Contact Theme Editor (Contact Theme Editor) Desktop Sharing (Krfb) Download Manager (KGet) Feed Reader (Akregator) Instant Messenger Contact (IM Contacts) IRC Client (Konversation) KDE Instant Messenger Log Viewer (KDE IM Log Viewer) Mail Client (KMail) Mail Header Theme Editor (KMail Header Theme Editor) Network Folder Wizard (KNetAttach) News Reader (KNode) PIM Settings Exporter allows to save all data... (PIM Setting Exporter) Remote Desktop Client (KRDC) Sieve Editor (Sieve Editor) TNF File Viewer (proprietary format used...) (KTNef) Web Browser (Firefox) Web Browser (Konqueror) Web Browser (QupZilla) = Multimedia Download with AMZ Downloader (AMZ Downloader) Audio Player (Amarok) Camera (Kamoso) Disk Burning (K3b) Video Player (Dragon Player) = Office Contact Manager (KAddressBook) Contact Print Theme Editor (Contact Print Theme Editor) Contact Theme Editor (Contact Theme Editor) Document Viewer (Okular) Mail Client (KMail) Mail Header Theme Editor (KMail Header Theme Editor) Personal Information Manager (Kontact) Personal Organizer (KOrganizer) PIM Settings Exporter allows to save all data... (PIM Setting Exporter) Sieve Editor (Sieve Editor) Spreadsheet (Calligra Sheets) TNF File Viewer (proprietary format used...) (KTNef) Word Processor (Calligra Words) = Settings System Settings (System Settings) = System Desktop Sharing (Krfb) Disk Burning (K3b) Write Fedora images to your portable drivers (Fedora Media Writer) File Manager (Dolphin) File Manager (Krusader - root-mode) Info Center (Info Center) Install (Install to Hard Drive) Partition Editor (KDE Partition Manager) View and report application crashes (Problem Reporting) Release Notes (Fedora Release Notes) Software Center (Discover) System Monitor (KSysGuard) Terminal (Konsole) User Manager (KUser) Wallet Management Tool for KDE4 (KWalletManager4) Wallet Management Tool (KWalletManager) = Utilities Archiving Tool (Ark) Automatic Mouse Click (KMouseTool) Character Selector (KCharSelect) Encryption Tool (KGpg) File Manager (Krusader) Find Files/Folders (KFind) Install (Install to Hard Drive) Launch the import wizard to migrate data f... (KMail Import Wizard) Scientific Calculator (KCalc) Screen Magnifier (KMag) Screenshot Capture Utility (Spectacle) Speech Synthesizer Frontend (KMouth) Text Editor (KWrite) Text To Speech Service (Jovie) TNF File Viewer (proprietary format used...) (KTNef) = Lost & Found MS Word DOCX Export Filter (MS Word DOCX Export Filter)
Workstation: = (top level) Boxes Calculator Calendar Cheese Clocks Contacts Documents Evolution Files Firefox Install to Hard Drive Libreoffice Calc Libreoffice Draw Libreoffice Impress Libreoffice Writer Maps Rhythmbox Settings Shotwell Simple scan Software Text Editor To Do Videos Weather == Utilities (subfolder) Archive manager Characters Disk usage Disks Document Viewer Fonts Help Image Viewer Logs Screenshot System Monitor Terminal == Sundry (subfolder) Problem Reporting SELinux Troubleshooting
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