Hi, I've used KDE for years and never had a serious issue. Yesterday (11/19) morning I did a "dnf update" and updated to the latest available patches (I do this every 2-3 weeks or so). Nothing relayed to KDE was updated as far as I could tell, but the kernel was updated from 4.8.4 to 4.8.7. Upon rebooting after the update, I got the sddm login screen as usual. I entered my name and password as usual. The KDE starting splash screen appeared as usual. After that is when the unusual happened. I got a blank screen. No panels (I have one along the bottom), no icons, no initial konsole window. Using Alt-Tab showed the konsole window but I could not bring it to the current screen. The mouse was active. I noticed a faint white line at the left edge. Clicking on it with my mouse and dragging it to the right expanded what was my konsole window. Apparently it was off screen to the left. I rebooted on the older 4.8.4 kernel and all was fine. I removed and reinstalled the 4.8.7 kernel. That did not help. (This morning a newer 4.8.8 kernel and I tried that but it behaved the same as with the 4.8.7 kernel.) Thinking that perhaps something buried in my home directory might be causing this, I created a new user. That new user had the exact same issues. I also looked in ~.xsession-errors. Nothing there that indicated any problem. Nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, either. I didn't see anything in the recent archives of this list. Anyone else seen this issue? I'm out of ideas at this time. I'll keep running the older 4.8.4 kernel since that works. I'll be glad to supply any additional information anyone thinks might help. Thanks for any help or suggestions Charles Dennett _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx