On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Mustafa Muhammad wrote: >> Today I was testing the F25 RC-1.1, tried to install google-chrome >> (downloaded rpm) and apper crashed (already reported bug): >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1383747 > > This one is probably a regression from the KF5 port. (Installing downloaded > RPMs worked in the kdelibs4 version.) > >> Also, opening apper, and selecting any group results in: >> "A problem that we were not expecting has occurred. >> Please report this bug with the error description." >> "SearchGroups not supported by backend" >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1098735 > > And this one is a long-known missing feature in PackageKit-hif. This is not > Apper's fault at all. Get PackageKit fixed. > > Workaround: search by name or description instead, you will find your > package(s) that way. Or use Discover (which uses AppStream for browsing). > >> If we want our users to install RPMs without terminal, I think it >> would be reasonable to include something that actually works for F26, > > The plan is to ship: https://github.com/anaselli/dnfdragora The main reason for the mail was the problems (PackageKit or Apper, the result is inability to install without dnf), I myself mostly use dnf, but for new users, Discover is much better. I wasn't aware of dnfdragora, looks good and should be great to include it. > > (It uses DNF directly without going through the PackageKit layer, and thus > can browse groups just fine.) > >> some will hate me for this, but if nothing change before F26, we >> better include gnome-software. > > Why? It has basically the same feature set (and in particular, also the same > set of things it does NOT do) as Discover. Because it worked for installing the rpm while discover crashed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372277 > >> The download size for installing it is 9.2M over my F25, and this also >> includes flatpack. > > That is absolutely HUGE for something as simple as an application browser. > The Flatpak runtimes are probably the main reason. > Flatpak should be important, we better included it even without gnome-software. >> This will break our Qt purity even more, but I think >> plasma-discover+gnome-software is better than plasma-discover+apper. > > How is it better to ship 2 app stores with nearly identical functionality > than an app store and a package manager? > > I think shipping Discover and dnfdragora, or even just dnfdragora, is the > way to go. I also think Discover and dnfdragora (now I know about it) would be enough. Regards Mustafa > Kevin Kofler > _______________________________________________ > kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
