Re: Apper problems

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Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
> Today I was testing the F25 RC-1.1, tried to install google-chrome
> (downloaded rpm) and apper crashed (already reported bug):
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1383747

This one is probably a regression from the KF5 port. (Installing downloaded 
RPMs worked in the kdelibs4 version.)

> Also, opening apper, and selecting any group results in:
> "A problem that we were not expecting has occurred.
> Please report this bug with the error description."
> "SearchGroups not supported by backend"
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1098735

And this one is a long-known missing feature in PackageKit-hif. This is not 
Apper's fault at all. Get PackageKit fixed.

Workaround: search by name or description instead, you will find your 
package(s) that way. Or use Discover (which uses AppStream for browsing).

> If we want our users to install RPMs without terminal, I think it
> would be reasonable to include something that actually works for F26,

The plan is to ship: https://github.com/anaselli/dnfdragora

(It uses DNF directly without going through the PackageKit layer, and thus 
can browse groups just fine.)

> some will hate me for this, but if nothing change before F26, we
> better include gnome-software.

Why? It has basically the same feature set (and in particular, also the same 
set of things it does NOT do) as Discover.

> The download size for installing it is 9.2M over my F25, and this also
> includes flatpack.

That is absolutely HUGE for something as simple as an application browser. 
The Flatpak runtimes are probably the main reason.

> This will break our Qt purity even more, but I think
> plasma-discover+gnome-software is better than plasma-discover+apper.

How is it better to ship 2 app stores with nearly identical functionality 
than an app store and a package manager?

I think shipping Discover and dnfdragora, or even just dnfdragora, is the 
way to go.

        Kevin Kofler
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