Re: Update oddity

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On Thu, 2016-07-14 at 15:10 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Today day I did an update and many qt5 packages were updated.  As I always do after an
> update I ran "tracer" to see if a session restart is suggested.  In this case it wasn't
> and I continued on.  Throughout the day I didn't start any new applications and everything
> hummed along just fine.
> 
> It wasn't until later in the day that I brought up ktorrent.  It failed when trying to
> select the destination directory for a torrent I wanted to download.  Gave an error
> message saying a "protocol" failed and the dialog box that normally shows the directory
> structure was blank.
> 
> Anyway, I guess "tracer" can't detect when applications starting in the future will "fail"
> due to updates.  But is there anyway, other than making it a SOP to restart one's session,
> to inform users that they should logout/login?

Tracer is problematic, e.g. I find it will suggest restarting a session
because of several stale processes, but on logging out and trying it
again as root from a console it will find a whole bunch of other stuff,
often related to systemd, that somehow it hadn't noticed before. I
posted something on this on the Fedora Users list (Feb 22) but finding
it in the new list archive system is too much work.

poc
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