Since updating last night (f23 standard repo) kde is working poorly. konsole doesn't work. All I get is a translucent window and frozen konsole. rm'ing .kde and logging in didn't help. icons are missing from systray. No network icon for example. Also, seems like clicking on things such as kmenu sometimes works, sometimes not. hard to see any relevant error messages in .xsession-errors (there's so much noise), /var/log/messages. Nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx