Man, that sucks. KDE is the only GUI I use. Unity in Ubuntu sucks and GNOME in general sucks. I can't imagine Linux life without KDE. The fedora dens need to stop being fucking idiots and realize KDE is a big part of their user base.
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, Kevin
Apart of Firefox (IMO we don't have choice, we have zero browsers basedOn Qui, 2015-10-29 at 17:00 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> - the Fedora 23 KDE Spin (which is now final or almost final) is
> easily the
> worst KDE Spin we have ever released:
> . Firefox, a non-KDE and even non-Qt application, is the default
> browser. It
> does not integrate into the Plasma desktop in any way.
> . Due to an oversight, DrKonqi is missing, and thus ABRT (another
> non-KDE
> application) is the default crash handler. ABRT reports all the
> crashes to
> us downstream packagers instead of upstream where the crash
> reports
> belong. And experience has shown that the ABRT fire&forget
> reporters are
> unwilling to upstream the bug reports manually, if they even
> read our
> replies at all (and that's if we even manage to reply to all the
> bugs to
> begin with).
> Both of these are complete no-gos where I have said from day one
> that those
> are not acceptable. The Firefox fiasco was a deliberate decision,
> the ABRT
> fiasco could have been avoided if DrKonqi had not been made
> optional against
> my recommendation, and/or if people had actually tested that the
> KDE Spin
> uses the KDE crash handler. I do not want to be held responsible
> for these
> decisions I did not approve of.
on QT and Firefox is the browser, final point), I agree , it is clearly
a no-go since F22 but we have other examples like brtfs , python 3 ,
wayland , that have been projected to be a default and after 6 releases
it wasn't , KDE5 is the same thing , after a year is not stable as we
expect , but KDE5 overwrite KDE4 , so we can't have both at same time .
So maybe it time go back and put KDE4 as default and KDE5 out or in
copr. We just need rebuild kde-workspace, kdeplasma-addons,
kde-print-manager and kde-baseapps.
Unfortunately KDE upstream is not a big company and development is
slower than we would like , but is clearly upstream fault , release KDE5
as stable when it wasn't.
Best regards,
--
Sérgio M. B.
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