Re: Stepping down from KDE SIG

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Man, that sucks.  KDE is the only GUI I use.  Unity in Ubuntu sucks and GNOME in general sucks. I can't imagine Linux life without KDE.  The fedora dens need to stop being fucking idiots and realize KDE is a big part of their user base.


On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Sérgio Basto <sergio@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, Kevin
On Qui, 2015-10-29 at 17:00 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> - the Fedora 23 KDE Spin (which is now final or almost final) is
> easily the
>     worst KDE Spin we have ever released:
>     . Firefox, a non-KDE and even non-Qt application, is the default
> browser. It
>       does not integrate into the Plasma desktop in any way.
>     . Due to an oversight, DrKonqi is missing, and thus ABRT (another
> non-KDE
>       application) is the default crash handler. ABRT reports all the
> crashes to
>       us downstream packagers instead of upstream where the crash
> reports
>       belong. And experience has shown that the ABRT fire&forget
> reporters are
>       unwilling to upstream the bug reports manually, if they even
> read our
>       replies at all (and that's if we even manage to reply to all the
> bugs to
>       begin with).
>     Both of these are complete no-gos where I have said from day one
> that those
>     are not acceptable. The Firefox fiasco was a deliberate decision,
> the ABRT
>     fiasco could have been avoided if DrKonqi had not been made
> optional against
>     my recommendation, and/or if people had actually tested that the
> KDE Spin
>     uses the KDE crash handler. I do not want to be held responsible
> for these
>     decisions I did not approve of.

Apart of Firefox (IMO we don't have choice, we have zero browsers based
on QT and Firefox is the browser, final point), I agree , it is clearly
a no-go since F22 but we have other examples like brtfs , python 3 ,
wayland , that have been projected to be a default and after 6 releases
it wasn't , KDE5 is the same thing , after a year is not stable as we
expect , but KDE5 overwrite KDE4 , so we can't have both at same time .
So maybe it time go back and put KDE4 as default and KDE5 out or in
copr. We just need rebuild kde-workspace, kdeplasma-addons,
kde-print-manager and kde-baseapps.
Unfortunately KDE upstream is not a big company and development is
slower than we would like , but is clearly upstream fault , release KDE5
as stable when it wasn't.


Best regards,
--
Sérgio M. B.

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