Hi, Kevin On Qui, 2015-10-29 at 17:00 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > - the Fedora 23 KDE Spin (which is now final or almost final) is > easily the > worst KDE Spin we have ever released: > . Firefox, a non-KDE and even non-Qt application, is the default > browser. It > does not integrate into the Plasma desktop in any way. > . Due to an oversight, DrKonqi is missing, and thus ABRT (another > non-KDE > application) is the default crash handler. ABRT reports all the > crashes to > us downstream packagers instead of upstream where the crash > reports > belong. And experience has shown that the ABRT fire&forget > reporters are > unwilling to upstream the bug reports manually, if they even > read our > replies at all (and that's if we even manage to reply to all the > bugs to > begin with). > Both of these are complete no-gos where I have said from day one > that those > are not acceptable. The Firefox fiasco was a deliberate decision, > the ABRT > fiasco could have been avoided if DrKonqi had not been made > optional against > my recommendation, and/or if people had actually tested that the > KDE Spin > uses the KDE crash handler. I do not want to be held responsible > for these > decisions I did not approve of. Apart of Firefox (IMO we don't have choice, we have zero browsers based on QT and Firefox is the browser, final point), I agree , it is clearly a no-go since F22 but we have other examples like brtfs , python 3 , wayland , that have been projected to be a default and after 6 releases it wasn't , KDE5 is the same thing , after a year is not stable as we expect , but KDE5 overwrite KDE4 , so we can't have both at same time . So maybe it time go back and put KDE4 as default and KDE5 out or in copr. We just need rebuild kde-workspace, kdeplasma-addons, kde-print-manager and kde-baseapps. Unfortunately KDE upstream is not a big company and development is slower than we would like , but is clearly upstream fault , release KDE5 as stable when it wasn't. Best regards, -- Sérgio M. B. _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org
