Re: Plan for F22 KDE updates after F23 release?

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On Oct 3, 2015 18:35, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Am 04.10.2015 um 00:25 schrieb P. Gueckel:
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>> Reindl Harald wrote:
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>>> a clean install?
>>> are we now on windows?
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>> It's how I like to do it [tips fedora]
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>> I have never had problems with clean installs and I
>> have formatted my drive so that there is always one
>> spare partition available to use as root (ok, two,
>> since I like to keep the previous Fedora, just in case
>> something ever goes wrong).
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>> There is less configuration and fiddling with a clean
>> install than with an upgrade, in my opinion, while,
>> reading these lists, I see again and again mention of
>> problems others have had with conflicts, unresolved
>> dependencies, lingering outdated configs and whatnot.
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>> As soon as a problem arises, the first advice one
>> receives will be to back up the home directory and
>> start with a clean one. So, what is to be gained with
>> an upgrade over a clean install? Time? Negligible, I
>> think, and what gain there might be will be spent many
>> times over comparing old and new configuration files.
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> that only works for users just browsing the web, reading some emails and using a random instant messenger - not if you *really* use your computer

Off the high horse. You're not elite or special just because you customize things.

> for me it takes 3-4 days to get configurations and customizations back to a fresh install, besides i am responsible for around 35 Fedora installs which would mean 105 days of work - that would be finally a half release cycle
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I can't image how many changes you make to a default install to require 3-4 days o.O I do quite a few modifications to the defaults and even I can get mine from fresh --> my defaults in an evening. Hell that's exactly why I don't mind doing fresh installs every release. Personally I like seeing the new defaults, see what the developers have changed that I otherwide wouldn't notice.

And if you're really maintaining 30+ computers then why aren't you using kickstart files and centralized configuration management? That right there would cut down most of the downtime, if it would ever be needed.

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