On Friday 07 August 2015 15:03:41 Mustafa Muhammad wrote: > Pros > 1) We will have the most popular open source browser, only chrome (not > chromium) has more users than Firefox and it's not fully open source (it > had flash built in) There is another way to look at that. We will have the least popular rendering engine (except KHTML, but I don't consider it relevant since QtWebKit is the default in konq). > 3) Familiar experience for first time users, Firefox tries to look similar > on all platforms. Why is this an issue? Browsers are a location bar and tabs. They all look the same. > > 4) Better support for internet video That is not true. Konq supports the same amount of video formats as Firefox fedora (VP8 only). If you want h264 you have to go through some configuration for both browsers. > 5) Much better support for the latest standard (HTML 5), if you compare > Konq to Firefox in http://html5test.com you will be shocked. Doesn't really help if they don't target your rendering engine. > 6) Support for addons to extend the functionality. I think this is the best argument for making Firefox default, as that is a thing that users actually miss. But with Firefox having made an 1) extremely insecure plugin structure and 2) creating an Apple like authentication scheme, it kinds of comes back in a negative way. And while users may accept this, IMO its not something Fedora should default on to people. > 7) Higher number of users and developers mean bugs and security > vulnerabilities gets found and fixed faster. There are more users on WebKit (Safari is more popular than Firefox, atleast in my country), the devs do you have numbers that actually quantify that statement? > 8) Firefox is faster than Konq. This is only relevant for people opening a lot of tabs. Which usually (in my experience) overlap with people being able to install their own browsers. > > Pros > Less integration with Plasma desktop and KDE apps. Here are some more cons: - The kWallet plugin is BROKEN (which means that if you actually want password protection you have to enable it yourself and write in a separate password). - Upstream is pushing for more and more sharing of personal data. - Linux support for stuff has been dabbing off a lot lately compared to Blink based browsers. - Extension system is not good. - HW support is in a testing state, at best. - Flash is a lost cause (it might not be a big deal in some time, but right now people actually use it) I would like to express my support for Kevin Koflers suggestion of just keeping Konq until there actually is a good alternative as now it only seems we are changing to abide by some people that is fully capable of installing Firefox them self. Even if you install Firefox by default, the users that you would target with "Can't install a new browser" would be the ones you would be better off installing proprietary Chrome for anyways. - Sindre _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org
