On Saturday 01 August 2015 00:28:15 Gerald B. Cox wrote: > You're missing the point here. Actually you are. > KDE is a desktop environment; No, it's not. Plasma is. > they have set their own defaults. Plasma does not ship any web browsers: http://download.kde.org/stable/plasma/5.3.2/ > Fedora is a linux distribution which packages KDE. You confuse the DE with the applications released by KDE. Just because the KDE community makes one or in many cases even more than one application of a certain kind (e.g. several music and media players), any of them is a default anywhere. > When you choose to > install the KDE environment, you should expect to get the upstream > defaults. I would be a bit annoyed if that were not the case. So, Juk instead of Amarok then and phonon-vlc instead of phonon-gstreamer? No. It's the distributor's responsibility to pick defaults best suited for its user base. Consistent themes from boot splash to the desktop wallpaper is a very common area of distro customization and Fedora does that as well. If you don't like customizations by the distributor, maybe Gentoo or Arch are better suited for you.. _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org