Re: New default web browser on KDE Spin

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On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
>> With both of them it does not work here (tried F22 and Rawhide),
>> unless you installed h264 decoder, it should not work, YouTube service
>> HTML5 videos as VP9, VP8, or mp4, you can see by right clicking the
>> video then click "Stats For Nerds", can you please tell us what is
>> working for you.
>>
>> I think Konq does not support any free video codec (VP9 or VP8),
>> Firefox supports BOTH (but now YouTube only runs VP8 on Firefox
>> because Google wants 'Media Sources Extensions' available to run VP9,
>> and MSE support in Firefox is still experimental)
>
> KWebKitPart uses GStreamer to decode videos. WebM (VP8, VP9) is supposed to
> just work. https://www.youtube.com/html5 also tells me that WebM VP8 is
> supported. (As for VP9, unfortunately, as you wrote, they apparently use it
> only with Media Source Extensions, which is currently NOT supported. But
> even Firefox is not enabling it by default, as you wrote.)
>
> And there are GStreamer plugins for H.264 in RPM Fusion. Unfortunately, you
> will need them for other sites anyway. A lot of the web still refuses to use
> patent-unencumbered formats. :-( For some reason, YouTube seems to send
> H.264 over VP8 if both are supported.

I mean the net result is, when a user first boots Fedora Workstation,
it works with YouTube (because they use Firefox), boot Fedora KDE, and
you can't, you have to install rpmfusion repos, then install the
required codec.
Firefox is better in every aspect (except that it uses GTK+), and you
know most people prefer it.

Please, make a public poll, e.g. on G+, see what users want.
Don't feed the users Konqueror just because it is from KDE, I love
KDE, it is the only Desktop I use, but I want a browser that works
well.

A less than optimal solution is to just add it, not as default, but available.


Regards
Mustafa Muhammad
>
>         Kevin Kofler
>
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