On Monday, May 11, 2015 12:05:40 PM Michael J Gruber wrote: > Daniel Vrátil venit, vidit, dixit 11.05.2015 11:37: > > Hi, > > > > let me try to address some of the issues you and Eli raised here > > > > On Monday, May 11, 2015 04:59:38 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 05/11/15 16:15, Eli Wapniarski wrote: > >>> Please everyone... I am not trolling or trying to start a debate. I am > >>> just stating my own very personal views with the following. > >>> > >>> I will start and end with the same statement. > >>> > >>> My comments here in no way reflects the exceptionally good work and > >>> repsonsiveness of Fedora's KDE Team. > >>> > >>> This is the first time that I can remember that I am not looking forward > >>> to the next release of Fedora. > >>> > >>> I have done a bit of fiddeling with plasma 5 and I must say as a long > >>> time > >>> KDE user I will not be upgrading to Plasma 5 on my main office or home > >>> systems given its current state. It is buggy, missing many features that > >>> I have become accustommed to and I have no way to work around the > >>> issues. > >> > >> Totally agree and I've pretty much, I think, stated the same in an > >> earlier > >> email. > >> > >>> While the individual issues that I have discovered may be minor, add > >>> them > >>> all up together with all the problems and issues that have been posted > >>> recently means some obstruction to my work flow. > >>> > >>> I will list the problems: > >>> > >>> no screensaver > >>> > >>> clock on the system tray takes up way to much realestate > > > > Digital or analog clock? With date or without? I use digital clock with > > date and it really only takes the minimum necessary space. > > > >>> resizing windows causes my windows to black until I click the app on the > >>> task switcher to minimze and then restore > > > > Hmm, could be a driver issue? Have you tried with KWin effects disabled > > (Alt +Shift+F12)? > > > >>> I cannot set my regional settings to the country where I live without > >>> changing the language of interface I want it to remain english. > > > > Is System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Formats what you are looking > > for? This does only affect time, currency etc. format, but not the actual > > language of the UI. > > > >>> kdepim has not been ported to the new library set yet. > > > > I don't see how this is a problem :-) We are going to release > > Qt5/KF5-based > > KDE PIM in August with KDE Applications 15.08 and our aim is for users not > > to be able to tell any difference between KDE 4 and KF5 version. > > > >>> The text contrast kicker cannot be altered. > >>> > >>> The American flag for the keyboard switcher is distorted > > > > That's the old (KDE 4) keyboard switcher, probably shown because you had > > some old KDED modules from KDE 4 still installed or loaded. In pure > > Plasma 5 environment the layout switcher only says "us" or "cz" etc. > > > >> Allow me to add to your list.... > >> > >> Starting from a "Saved Session" doesn't work. The windows may be > >> restored, > >> but they are never in the location you've saved them. And, they all end > >> up > >> on a single virtual desktop. And the systray may or may not be at the > >> height you previously specified. And, even if you save a session and you > >> want to start with Virtual Desktop 2 displayed, you'll get Virtual > >> Desktop > >> 1. > > > > Yes, this is a big issue :( > > > >> The default window size for konsole aren't always retained between login > >> sessions. Sometimes I get the 82x24 I want, and sometimes I don't. > > > > I think this might be related to the above :( > > > >> I can't define the date/time format for the systray clock that I want. I > >> want 24hr format an mm/dd/yy. > > > > We could add the to the configuration UI, or you could try to change that > > in regional and datetime settings. > > > >> The "upgrade" to Plasma 5 should be "seamless" in that your themes and > >> decorations are retained. User installed themes are in a new location > >> but > >> not moved in the "upgrade" process. Users will have to spend time to > >> redo > >> their environment. If they have many systems they may get annoyed. > > > > In most cases that is not possible, as Oxygen Plasma 5 itself looks very > > differently from Oxygen in KDE 4 (+ Breeze is now the default), and most > > 3rd party themes and decorations don't provide Qt 5 versions yet, so what > > actually happens is fallback to default. > > > > Plus there were some major changings in the internals of Plasma, so the > > devs decided that it will be safer to not migrate the shell configuration > > (basically, it's better not to migrate anything than to migrate only > > something and break stuff). > > > >> You can't have a different wallpaper for each Virtual Desktop. This > >> makes > >> life boring. > > > > I think this is planned for 5.4 :) > > > >> There is no kwallet manager for Plasma 5 at this time....or so I've been > >> told. > > > > Jan is working on it, KWalletManager5 should hit repos in time for F22. > > There is still the issue with kwalletmanager in dvratil-plasma-5 for f21 > that I reported here: > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.kde/14329 > > Will kwalletmanager5 come to that repo and obsolete kwalletmanager-5, > and what about the kwalletmanager-4 vs. kwalletmanager-14 versioning > mishaps there? Thanks for reminder, I'll adjust the Copr packaging and include kwalletmanager5 in the Copr as well. 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