Daniel Vrátil venit, vidit, dixit 11.05.2015 11:37: > Hi, > > let me try to address some of the issues you and Eli raised here > > On Monday, May 11, 2015 04:59:38 PM Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 05/11/15 16:15, Eli Wapniarski wrote: >>> Please everyone... I am not trolling or trying to start a debate. I am >>> just stating my own very personal views with the following. >>> >>> I will start and end with the same statement. >>> >>> My comments here in no way reflects the exceptionally good work and >>> repsonsiveness of Fedora's KDE Team. >>> >>> This is the first time that I can remember that I am not looking forward >>> to the next release of Fedora. >>> >>> I have done a bit of fiddeling with plasma 5 and I must say as a long time >>> KDE user I will not be upgrading to Plasma 5 on my main office or home >>> systems given its current state. It is buggy, missing many features that >>> I have become accustommed to and I have no way to work around the issues. >> Totally agree and I've pretty much, I think, stated the same in an earlier >> email. >>> While the individual issues that I have discovered may be minor, add them >>> all up together with all the problems and issues that have been posted >>> recently means some obstruction to my work flow. >>> >>> I will list the problems: >>> >>> no screensaver > >>> clock on the system tray takes up way to much realestate > > Digital or analog clock? With date or without? I use digital clock with date > and it really only takes the minimum necessary space. > >>> resizing windows causes my windows to black until I click the app on the >>> task switcher to minimze and then restore > > Hmm, could be a driver issue? Have you tried with KWin effects disabled (Alt > +Shift+F12)? > >>> I cannot set my regional settings to the country where I live without >>> changing the language of interface I want it to remain english. > > Is System Settings -> Regional Settings -> Formats what you are looking for? > This does only affect time, currency etc. format, but not the actual language > of the UI. > >>> kdepim has not been ported to the new library set yet. > > I don't see how this is a problem :-) We are going to release Qt5/KF5-based > KDE PIM in August with KDE Applications 15.08 and our aim is for users not to > be able to tell any difference between KDE 4 and KF5 version. > >>> The text contrast kicker cannot be altered. > >>> The American flag for the keyboard switcher is distorted > > That's the old (KDE 4) keyboard switcher, probably shown because you had some > old KDED modules from KDE 4 still installed or loaded. In pure Plasma 5 > environment the layout switcher only says "us" or "cz" etc. > >> >> Allow me to add to your list.... >> >> Starting from a "Saved Session" doesn't work. The windows may be restored, >> but they are never in the location you've saved them. And, they all end up >> on a single virtual desktop. And the systray may or may not be at the >> height you previously specified. And, even if you save a session and you >> want to start with Virtual Desktop 2 displayed, you'll get Virtual Desktop >> 1. > > Yes, this is a big issue :( > >> >> The default window size for konsole aren't always retained between login >> sessions. Sometimes I get the 82x24 I want, and sometimes I don't. > > I think this might be related to the above :( > >> >> I can't define the date/time format for the systray clock that I want. I >> want 24hr format an mm/dd/yy. > > We could add the to the configuration UI, or you could try to change that in > regional and datetime settings. > >> >> The "upgrade" to Plasma 5 should be "seamless" in that your themes and >> decorations are retained. User installed themes are in a new location but >> not moved in the "upgrade" process. Users will have to spend time to redo >> their environment. If they have many systems they may get annoyed. > > In most cases that is not possible, as Oxygen Plasma 5 itself looks very > differently from Oxygen in KDE 4 (+ Breeze is now the default), and most 3rd > party themes and decorations don't provide Qt 5 versions yet, so what actually > happens is fallback to default. > > Plus there were some major changings in the internals of Plasma, so the devs > decided that it will be safer to not migrate the shell configuration > (basically, it's better not to migrate anything than to migrate only something > and break stuff). > >> >> You can't have a different wallpaper for each Virtual Desktop. This makes >> life boring. > > I think this is planned for 5.4 :) > >> There is no kwallet manager for Plasma 5 at this time....or so I've been >> told. > > Jan is working on it, KWalletManager5 should hit repos in time for F22. There is still the issue with kwalletmanager in dvratil-plasma-5 for f21 that I reported here: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.kde/14329 Will kwalletmanager5 come to that repo and obsolete kwalletmanager-5, and what about the kwalletmanager-4 vs. kwalletmanager-14 versioning mishaps there? Michael _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org
