Am 30.03.2014 17:05, schrieb John Pilkington: > On 30/03/14 15:18, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 30.03.2014 16:05, schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: >>> On Sun, 2014-03-30 at 21:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >>>> When I run KDE only systems it is "apper" that pops up on the systray >>>> to inform of available updates and what I use to perform the updates. >>> >>> Slightly OT: what's the recommended way of stopping that? I'd rather use >>> yum and not have Apper pestering me. Besides which it occasionally holds >>> grabs a lock while I'm trying to use yum (I presume that's PackageKit's >>> fault) >> >> just cleanup your system? >> >> why is package-kit installed if you don't user it >> why is apper installed if you don't use it? >> why is anything installed you don't use? > > Well, in my case I imagine PackageKit et al arrived at some time via something like 'yum install KDE-desktop' and > just got left there. I haven't done a clean install on this box since perhaps F12. package-cleanup --leaves --all exists you only need to know what you are using, thats why i build my own set of meta packages, look at the SPEC file below, that helps because if deps of packages i am using are changing i get no longer needed packages listed without need to filter out my used ones all the time with that way i own Fedora setups installed 2008 with F9 and running on F19 with the whole root-fs only 700 MB used, that makes *any* dist-upgrade also much easier becaue it reduces possible conflicts greatly 'yum install KDE-desktop' installs *meta packages* with requirements, get rid of the pure meta-packages and "package-cleanup --leaves --all exists" will list you more and more packages you can't uninstall without damage the whole system > And FWIW I usually use Firefox for browsing and Konqueror for file management :-) me too _________________________________________________________ "Requires: lounge-base" refers to another such meta-package [builduser@buildserver64:~]$ cat /rpmbuild/SPECS/lounge-rhsoft-workstation.spec Summary: metapackage for rhsoft workstation-packages Name: lounge-rhsoft-workstation Version: 20.0 Release: 7%{?dist} BuildArch: noarch Group: System Environment/Libraries URL: http://www.thelounge.net/ License: GPL Requires: acpid Requires: adobe-release Requires: aespipe Requires: alltray Requires: arp-scan Requires: attr Requires: audacity-freeworld Requires: avahi-tools Requires: bash-completion Requires: bind-utils Requires: bridge-utils Requires: chkrootkit Requires: cifs-utils Requires: cpulimit Requires: cpuid Requires: crypto-utils Requires: cryptsetup-luks Requires: cuetools Requires: cups-pdf Requires: curlftpfs Requires: cyrus-sasl Requires: cyrus-sasl-md5 Requires: deltarpm Requires: dbmail Requires: dbmail-manpages Requires: dbmail-postfix-policyd Requires: dhclient Requires: dhcp Requires: dos2unix Requires: dovecot Requires: driconf Requires: dstat Requires: elinks Requires: etckeeper Requires: ethtool Requires: foomatic Requires: ffmpeg-latest Requires: ffmpeg-latest-manpages Requires: filelight Requires: firefox Requires: flac Requires: flash-plugin Requires: ftp Requires: fuseiso Requires: fuse-smb Requires: fuse-sshfs Requires: gcc Requires: gcc-c++ Requires: gimp Requires: gnupg Requires: gocr Requires: google-chrome-stable Requires: GraphicsMagick Requires: graphviz Requires: grub2 Requires: gstreamer-ffmpeg Requires: gstreamer-plugins-bad-free Requires: gstreamer-plugins-ugly Requires: gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free Requires: gstreamer1-plugins-ugly Requires: hardening-check Requires: hdparm Requires: hostapd Requires: hpijs Requires: htop Requires: httpd-tools Requires: inkscape Requires: intel-gpu-tools Requires: irqbalance Requires: isomd5sum Requires: java-1.7.0-openjdk Requires: k3b-extras-freeworld Requires: kamera Requires: kcalc Requires: kcharselect Requires: kcoloredit Requires: kdegraphics-thumbnailers Requires: kde-l10n-German Requires: kdemultimedia-kio_audiocd Requires: kdemultimedia-kmix Requires: kde-plasma-ihatethecashew Requires: kde-print-manager Requires: kdesdk-kcachegrind Requires: kdesdk-kioslave Requires: kdesdk-kpartloader Requires: kde-settings-pulseaudio Requires: kde-plasma-folderview Requires: kfind Requires: kdesvn Requires: kernel-devel Requires: keyutils Requires: kiconedit Requires: kid3 Requires: knemo Requires: krename Requires: krusader Requires: ksaneplugin Requires: ksnapshot Requires: ksysguard Requires: kwallet Requires: lame Requires: libcap-ng-utils Requires: libdvdcss Requires: libdvdcss2 Requires: libreoffice-calc Requires: libreoffice-impress Requires: libreoffice-langpack-de Requires: libreoffice-writer Requires: libva-intel-driver Requires: lm_sensors Requires: logwatch Requires: lounge-base Requires: lsscsi Requires: lynis Requires: man-pages Requires: man-pages-de Requires: md5deep Requires: mdadm Requires: mercurial Requires: mesa-dri-drivers Requires: microcode_ctl Requires: mirage Requires: mlocate Requires: mod_dav_svn Requires: mod_h264_streaming Requires: mod_security Requires: mod_ssl Requires: mpage Requires: multitail Requires: mariadb-manpages Requires: mariadb-server Requires: mysqltuner Requires: nano Requires: netstat-nat Requires: nmap Requires: nrg2iso Requires: nss-mdns Requires: nss-tools Requires: ntp Requires: odt2txt Requires: okular Requires: openssh-askpass Requires: openvpn Requires: p7zip Requires: patchutils Requires: pciutils Requires: php-bcmath Requires: php-feedcreator Requires: php-gd Requires: php-imap Requires: phpMyAdmin Requires: php-pecl-geoip Requires: php-pecl-imagick Requires: php-pecl-mailparse Requires: php-pecl-mysqlnd_qc Requires: php-pecl-ssh2 Requires: php-pecl-uploadprogress Requires: php-pecl-xdebug Requires: php-pecl-zendopcache Requires: php-process Requires: php-soap Requires: php-tidy Requires: php-xml Requires: php-xmlrpc Requires: plasma-scriptengine-python Requires: postfix-manpages Requires: powertop Requires: preload Requires: qgit Requires: qtcurve-kde4 Requires: rar Requires: rdesktop Requires: recode Requires: rkhunter Requires: rng-tools Requires: rpl Requires: rpmfusion-nonfree-release Requires: rsnapshot Requires: rsyslog-mysql Requires: samba Requires: samba-client Requires: sane-backends-drivers-cameras Requires: sane-backends-drivers-scanners Requires: screen Requires: shntool Requires: smartmontools Requires: smbios-utils Requires: strace Requires: subversion-kde Requires: sudo Requires: svn2cl Requires: symlinks Requires: sysstat Requires: tcpdump Requires: tcptraceroute Requires: tcptrack Requires: telnet Requires: thunderbird Requires: tigervnc Requires: tigervnc-server-module Requires: traceroute Requires: tree Requires: trickle Requires: tunctl Requires: udftools Requires: unhide Requires: uniconvertor Requires: unrar Requires: usbutils Requires: vlc Requires: vnstat Requires: whois Requires: xarchiver Requires: xorg-x11-drv-dummy Requires: xorg-x11-drv-evdev Requires: xorg-x11-drv-fbdev Requires: xorg-x11-drv-intel Requires: xorg-x11-drv-keyboard Requires: xorg-x11-drv-mouse Requires: xorg-x11-drv-v4l Requires: xorg-x11-drv-void Requires: xorg-x11-xdm Requires: xsane Requires: yum-plugin-protectbase Requires: yum-presto Requires: yum-utils Requires: zenity Requires: dialog Requires: sslscan Requires: weighttp Requires: cpuid Requires: kde-plasma-folderview Requires: kfind %description metapackage for rhsoft workstation-packages %files %changelog * Sun Apr 29 2012 Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - initial build
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