Per, "phonon dependencies prevent running a reasonable Fedora without PackageKit", https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694169 there currently is a hard Requires: PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin in phonon-backend-gstreamer. The original rationale included: 1. ensure the gstreamer install-codecs-on-demand feature "just worked" 2. avoid phonon crashes when the pk-plugin was not present Turns out, the crasher bug (2) has been fixed in phonon since. phonon upstream continues to recommend the dependency (1) for usability reasons. Now, we could try to pull in PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin by other means (like comps), to avoid the hard dependency, and satisfy the reporter (and supporters) of bug #694169. Looks like Kevin prefers to keep the dep. I'll continue to have a slight preference to defer to upstream's wishes to keep the dep. Any other opinions? What say you? -- Rex _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org