On Tuesday 13 July 2010 21:18:03 Eli Wapniarski wrote: > On Tuesday 13 July 2010 20:56:34 Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 11 July 2010 18:25:44 Eli Wapniarski wrote: > > > On Sunday 11 July 2010 09:56:06 Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > Thanks for the offer of help. > > > > > > Your welcome > > > > > > Eli > > > > Hi, Eli. Here you are: http://pastebin.ca/1899947 > > > > I was working on several things, so had both Konqueror and Chromium open > > with a number of tabs each. Without warning X crashed. The mouse could > > move the cursor - white arrow on black screen, and the keyboard appeared > > to be read - Ctrl-alt-F2 was recognised, and so, when I tried it > > eventually, was Ctrl-alt- Del. Ctrl-alt-backspace did nothing, though. > > I tried to use a VT to restart plasma, but I don't think it's plasma > > that crashed, I think it was X itself. > > > > Hope you have some ideas :-) > > > > Anne > > Hi Anne > > What I can see from the logs that you presented was that all the way down > Xwindows seemed to be healthy. > Well that rules out one thing. FWIW, Rex also said on IRC that if I could move the cursor around with the mouse, like that, X hadn't crashed, so we are looking for something else. > You say that you were able to switch over to a console. The next time it > happens please post the output of > > ps aux > I'll do that. > One possibility that comes to mind is that it is very possible that the > computer overheated. > I don't think so. I run gkrellm, and this laptop reports about 10' cooler constantly than my older laptop did when idling. It never seems to raise more than a few degrees. > Konqueror / Chromium) hmmm.... I have had some problems with Konqueror in the past, which is why I use Chromium quite a lot. It just seems more stable. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Konqueror is implicated. > Questions (probably silly). Are you using > adobe's flash plugin? Is it the 64 bit version or the 32 bit version? I have flash-plugin-10.1.53.64-release.i386 > If > the 32 bit version are you using it in a 64 bit environment? No. > If you are > using flash do you experience the same symptoms if you were to use firefox > or google-chrome? > Flash videos run perfectly in FF and Chromium, but not at all in Konqueror. I had clicked on a video link, forgetfully, earlier, so Konqueror would have tried to run it and failed. It's possible that there is a connection there. At Rex's suggestion, I'm trying xorg-x11-drv-intel-2.12.0 from koji. In this morning's logwatch I see WARNING: Kernel Errors Present ACPI Error (psargs-0359): [ ...: 8 Time(s) ACPI Error (psparse-0537): ...: 8 Time(s) [<f81f1041>] ? i915_error_object_create+0x ...: 5 Time(s) [<f81f1083>] i915_error_object_create+0x ...: 11 Time(s) [<f81f13f2>] i915_handle_error+0x314/0x813 [i91 ...: 4 Time(s) [<f81f140e>] i915_handle_error+0x330/0x813 [i91 ...: 7 Time(s) render error detected, EIR: 0 ...: 157 Time(s) I don't think the ACPI errors have any connection, but the rest probably do. I haven't yet trawled through logs to find out exactly when this happened, so I don't know whether it is building up to the crash, or whether it concerns the new driver. Later today I'll see if I can put a time on them. One thing I have found in the logs - prior to installing this experimental driver, the kdm.log showed intel_bufmgr_gem.c:1069: Error setting domain 601: Input/output error intel_bufmgr_gem.c:1069: Error setting domain 828: Input/output error intel_bufmgr_gem.c:1069: Error setting domain 639: Input/output error With the new driver that has disappeared, so that has to be a step in the right direction :-) 'messages' is full of kernel errors, some of which are probably related. It's probably too big for pastebin, but I could post it somewhere and send the link to anyone wanting to read it. Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org
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