On Sunday 04 July 2010 20:43:11 Eike Hein wrote: > On 7/4/2010 4:39 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote: > > Why... because the developers have said that this is not for release. > > You keep repeating this, and it keeps being untrue. It's > a beta release. There's a plan for when the final release > can be expected (alongside KDE SC 4.5.1 or 4.5.2). kde- > unstable has carried all the other beta-level KDE SC 4.5 > packages so far. > > If you understand "beta" as "this is not for release" and > thus "not for kde-unstable", then kde-unstable should ne- > ver carry any KDE SC beta packages. But it has done so for > years. Same for Qt betas. Heck, even Qt Technical Previews. > > Let's get to the bottom here: You're interested in an ar- > bitrary decision being made that suits your personal pre- > ference, not making a decision consistent with how kde-un- > stable has been run so far and its purpose. OK, let's have some facts from the horse's mouth. Thus quoth Allen Winter on the 29th June - As you are probably aware, kdepim will be withheld from the upcoming KDE SC 4.5 Release. You should be able to use kdepim 4.4 along with the kdepim 4.4 translations with the rest of KDE SC 4.5; ie. kdepim 4.4 should compile and work with the libraries from kdelibs 4.5 and kdepimlibs 4.5. We hope to make a production-ready kdepim 4.5 available concurrently with KDE SC 4.5.1 or KDE SC 4.5.2, depending on how well our beta testing goes. A first beta for kdepim 4.5 will be tagged and a tarball created (and put on the FTP servers) within the next couple days. With the second beta due 2 weeks thereafter. The schedule is (perhaps overly optimistic): 30 Jun: kdepim 4.5 beta1 15 Jul: kdepim 4.5 beta2 29 Jul: kdepim 4.5 rc1 12 Aug: kdepim 4.5 rc2 26 Aug: kdepim 4.5 final (I believe KDE SC 4.5.1 will also be tagged this day) </quote> Right, there are the facts. Now can you ensure that we will be able to make our own decision about the degree of risk, or do we go elsewhere? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/attachments/20100704/dcf2d91d/attachment.bin