On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Eli Wapniarski <eli at orbsky.homelinux.org> wrote: > On Saturday 03 July 2010 22:49:46 Anne Wilson wrote: >> On Friday 02 July 2010 18:04:54 Eli Wapniarski wrote: >> > On Friday 02 July 2010 18:03:10 Rex Dieter wrote: >> > > Christoph Kaulich wrote: >> > > > just a short question, will there be a kdepim 4.5 beta1 build for >> > > > fc13? >> > > >> > > When it is provided by it's upstream. >> > > >> > > Turns out just yesterday, some preliminary kdepim-4.5-beta1 tarballs >> > > were provided to packagers, so we'll get to work on those, and get >> > > into rawhide and kde-unstable asap. >> > >> > Errr.... What does that say about stability? ?If I recall correctly there >> > were serious issues with kdepim 4.5 that delayed the release with kde >> > 4.5. Does that mean the developers think that they have been resolved? >> > If not is it wise to include kdepim 4.5 so deep in the release cycle? >> > >> > Eli >> >> The developers have said explicitly that it is a Technical Preview. ?They >> have asked that distros that choose to supply it should make that clear to >> users, and that they should distribute the 4.4 version as standard in SC >> 4,5, which means that you will be able to run the two in parallel, but >> only if you explicitly choose to. >> >> The migration path is fairly well tested, but if things do go wrong it is >> possible to revert to using the 4.4 version. ?However, it sounds a bit >> complicated to me so I have asked the developers to help me write up a >> clear explanation when the release gets nearer. >> >> Anne > > As you noted Anne.... It is a technical review. However, as noted earlier > kdepim 4.5 is schedualed to be brought along side packages being tested as > part of the release cycle. Kdepim 4.5 is not schedualed for release. IMHO it > is a mistake to include it within the framework of how kde-redhat has > traditionally incorporated testing leading to final release. The last time kde > released a botched kdepim the noise was horrific and very unpleasant. Even you say *testing* (kde-testing) leading to final. > Again in my humble opinion it belongs somewhere on the side. If individuals > wish to test it then they would be able to do it by including the kde-redhat > development repo. Leaving unstable clear for testing of packages schedualed > for release. What is not understandable on kde-unstable? Should it be named kde-unstable-devel-will-eat-your-babys-makes-kitten-cry? Kdepim4.5 will be in kde-unstable. EOT for me. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium