On Saturday 03 July 2010 08:00:32 Eli Wapniarski wrote: > On Saturday 03 July 2010 01:36:16 Ryan Rix wrote: > > On Fri 2 July 2010 11:02:27 pm Eli Wapniarski wrote: > > > On Friday 02 July 2010 20:25:33 Thomas Janssen wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Eli Wapniarski > > > > <eli at orbsky.homelinux.org> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Friday 02 July 2010 18:03:10 Rex Dieter wrote: > > > > >> Christoph Kaulich wrote: > > > > >> > just a short question, will there be a kdepim 4.5 beta1 build > > > > >> > for fc13? > > > > >> > > > > >> When it is provided by it's upstream. > > > > >> > > > > >> Turns out just yesterday, some preliminary kdepim-4.5-beta1 > > > > >> tarballs were provided to packagers, so we'll get to work on > > > > >> those, and get into rawhide and kde-unstable asap. > > > > > > > > > > Errr.... What does that say about stability? If I recall correctly > > > > > there were serious issues with kdepim 4.5 that delayed the release > > > > > with kde 4.5. Does that mean the developers think that they have > > > > > been resolved? If not is it wise to include kdepim 4.5 so deep in > > > > > the release cycle? > > > > > > > > Kdepim 4.5 will be released (the final version) together with KDE SC > > > > 4.5.1 or 4.5.2 (of course if the developers think it's ready then, > > > > what it look like from a todays POV). Means yes, it is wise to > > > > include it in the release cycle of rawhide. > > > > > > OK then here are my real questions... Will kdepim 4.4 accompany kde 4.5 > > > in unstable? If kdepim 4.5 turns out to be unusable (not beyond the > > > realm of possibilities given kdepim's 4.x's history and what is already > > > known about kdepim 4.5) then how to downgrade back to 4.4 and not screw > > > up kdepim and akonadi due to all the configuration changes that no > > > doubt will accompany the upgrade to 4.5? As asked previously... Is it > > > wise to include kdepim 4.5 so late in the release cycle when we already > > > know that it isn't going to be included in the final release of kde > > > 4.5? And since I really do not want to run kdepim 4.5 on my computer > > > because I know it doesn't work anywhere close to where it should will > > > I be able to maintain the current kdepim 4.4 with kde 4.5 as things > > > stand at the moment? > > > > > > Rawhide fine.... kde-unstable???? hmmmmm... I dunnoooo. > > > > This is kde-unstable you're talking about right? The same repo that has > > shipped alphas, betas, and release candidates for every recent SC > > release? The repo that is designed for those who want to test this > > software, and has the ability to downgrade and report on any packages > > which may have issues? *THat* one? If you can't run unstable things, > > then you shouldn't be running kde- redhat/unstable, sorry. > > > > > Eli > > > > Ryan > > In kde-unstable along the path to testing and then fedora-testing and > finally stable. And with relative certainty that things are going to work > by the end of the process. We know that kdepim 4.5 is not going to work. > That means putting the current unstable packages into testing. And these > packages are still in beta and rc status. Again, we are reasonably certain > that Beta means beta and RC candidates are rc candidates. There may some > bugs, but they work overall. And we usually don't see alpha versions. > Besides, kdepim 4.5 is pre alpha. We know that it simply does not work. It > doesn't belong there. If I'm not mistaken, kde-redhat is more of a fedora > packaging testing environment rather than a kde development environment. > > Eli Oh... kdepim 4.5 would be a perfect candidate for a "kde-redhat development" repo. Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
