On Saturday 03 July 2010 01:36:16 Ryan Rix wrote: > On Fri 2 July 2010 11:02:27 pm Eli Wapniarski wrote: > > On Friday 02 July 2010 20:25:33 Thomas Janssen wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Eli Wapniarski > > > <eli at orbsky.homelinux.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > On Friday 02 July 2010 18:03:10 Rex Dieter wrote: > > > >> Christoph Kaulich wrote: > > > >> > just a short question, will there be a kdepim 4.5 beta1 build for > > > >> > fc13? > > > >> > > > >> When it is provided by it's upstream. > > > >> > > > >> Turns out just yesterday, some preliminary kdepim-4.5-beta1 tarballs > > > >> were provided to packagers, so we'll get to work on those, and get > > > >> into rawhide and kde-unstable asap. > > > > > > > > Errr.... What does that say about stability? If I recall correctly > > > > there were serious issues with kdepim 4.5 that delayed the release > > > > with kde 4.5. Does that mean the developers think that they have been > > > > resolved? If not is it wise to include kdepim 4.5 so deep in the > > > > release cycle? > > > > > > Kdepim 4.5 will be released (the final version) together with KDE SC > > > 4.5.1 or 4.5.2 (of course if the developers think it's ready then, > > > what it look like from a todays POV). Means yes, it is wise to include > > > it in the release cycle of rawhide. > > > > OK then here are my real questions... Will kdepim 4.4 accompany kde 4.5 > > in unstable? If kdepim 4.5 turns out to be unusable (not beyond the > > realm of possibilities given kdepim's 4.x's history and what is already > > known about kdepim 4.5) then how to downgrade back to 4.4 and not screw > > up kdepim and akonadi due to all the configuration changes that no > > doubt will accompany the upgrade to 4.5? As asked previously... Is it > > wise to include kdepim 4.5 so late in the release cycle when we already > > know that it isn't going to be included in the final release of kde 4.5? > > And since I really do not want to run kdepim 4.5 on my computer because > > I know it doesn't work anywhere close to where it should will I be able > > to maintain the current kdepim 4.4 with kde 4.5 as things stand at the > > moment? > > > > Rawhide fine.... kde-unstable???? hmmmmm... I dunnoooo. > > This is kde-unstable you're talking about right? The same repo that has > shipped alphas, betas, and release candidates for every recent SC release? > The repo that is designed for those who want to test this software, and > has the ability to downgrade and report on any packages which may have > issues? *THat* one? If you can't run unstable things, then you shouldn't > be running kde- redhat/unstable, sorry. > > > Eli > > Ryan In kde-unstable along the path to testing and then fedora-testing and finally stable. And with relative certainty that things are going to work by the end of the process. We know that kdepim 4.5 is not going to work. That means putting the current unstable packages into testing. And these packages are still in beta and rc status. Again, we are reasonably certain that Beta means beta and RC candidates are rc candidates. There may some bugs, but they work overall. And we usually don't see alpha versions. Besides, kdepim 4.5 is pre alpha. We know that it simply does not work. It doesn't belong there. If I'm not mistaken, kde-redhat is more of a fedora packaging testing environment rather than a kde development environment. Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
