On 05/29/2010 03:07 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> >> On Sat, 29 May 2010, Neal Becker wrote: >> >>> Remaining problems: >>> >>> * nm-applet does not start automatically (used to on f12) >> >> knetworkmanager is used by default in f13 instead. > > I also updated from F12 to F13. nm-applet is not started, but the > network is up (NetworkManager is running). Also, knetworkmanager was not > installed during the update process. > > I'm coming to the conclusion that "update" doesn't mean what I thought. > Instead of meaning "install new stuff and remove old stuff which it > functionally replaces" it seems to mean "replace already installed stuff > with the newest versions of the same stuff". I'm not saying this is > always wrong, it's just not what I expected. How did you upgrade? With yum or anaconda? > > poc > > _______________________________________________ > kde mailing list > kde at lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org