On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 11:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > > On Sat, 29 May 2010, Neal Becker wrote: > > > Remaining problems: > > > > * nm-applet does not start automatically (used to on f12) > > knetworkmanager is used by default in f13 instead. I also updated from F12 to F13. nm-applet is not started, but the network is up (NetworkManager is running). Also, knetworkmanager was not installed during the update process. I'm coming to the conclusion that "update" doesn't mean what I thought. Instead of meaning "install new stuff and remove old stuff which it functionally replaces" it seems to mean "replace already installed stuff with the newest versions of the same stuff". I'm not saying this is always wrong, it's just not what I expected. poc