If KDEPIM 4.4.x can still run wiht KDE 4.5 then we can get everything other than the newest KDEPIM. I believe that this has been the method used in the past. Eli On Saturday 15 May 2010 08:47:46 Ryan Rix wrote: > Hey all > > Please see http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/akonadi-meeting- > and-the-kde-sc-4-5-release/ > tl;dr: KDEPIM in 4.5.0 won't be ready due to the KMail2 Akonadi port, and > will be shipping in 4.5.1 > > What does this mean for us? Well, as happened in 4.4.0 days, we're going > to start getting a bunch of our users gearing up for 4.5, and being ultra- > hyper-super-excited to try all the new shinies, especially the kdepim > goodness everyone has been hyping up. > > I am kind of thinking that we should put some *real* thought into this > issue, as I'm sure that either way we handle this, there will be much > wailing and gnashing of teeth; on the one hand we have our no-we-want- > centos-style-updates group which will be upset by us pushing 4.5 to > anything but rawhide, and those that will be upset if we -don't-, so I > think we should get out in front of this issue now, rather than Beta or RC > rolls around. > > I know that I don't really show up for SIG meetings, due to school, so I > am kind of out of touch on what exactly our plans are for 4.5 or if we > even have any yet. But summer is around the corner (today is my last non- > finals Friday in high school!) so I will begin attending SIG meetings > regularly. I'm willing to own this kdepim issue if only partially, as I am > close to upstream KDEPIM for my GSoC project. I will be assessing KDE > trunk this weekend, and can provide at least a partial report of > regressions in the non-KMail PIM stack. > > One option that I see is tearing KMail out of the PIM packages in kde- > redhat/unstable, so we have kdepim 4.5 and kdepim-kmail 4.4. Keeping that > in kde-redhat allows us to hack on it without having to put kdepim-kmail > through review. Of course, that all depends on how well KMail1 interacts > with its akonadi brethren, an issue which tmcguire kind of left in the > open. > > I'm wondering a little if 4.5 is a good time to address our updates policy > in general, a time to promote kde-redhat (maybe there is some way we could > promote it more prominently on the SIG page and elsewhere?) and keep our > 4.5 updates there until 4.5.1 or even 4.5.2 for stability's sake and to > keep certain factions on the devel list from whinging when they lose > $petfeature, or decide that 150MB of KDE 4.5 is enough to start Yet > Another Thread about, or they decided that Akonadi sucked and disabled it > and oops-where's-my-calendar... That last part is of course written in > jest, but similar things did happen for 4.4, and I think that handling > this far ahead of time is a good way to try to regain some face among the > rest of Fedora, whether we deserved to lose face in 4.4 or not. > > Best > Ryan -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.