On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:34:26 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > On Tuesday 23 March 2010 12:20:24 Jan Simonson wrote: > > tisdag 23 mars 2010 skrev Anne Wilson: > > > As you well know, KDE is not a commercial company, with paid employees > > > working 9 to 5. KDE is a community of people who give their best, > > > mostly in their spare time, but sometimes fail to understand what a > > > hash we can all make with tweaking our own systems. Yes there have > > > been problems, but the developers have been responsive in helping us > > > to identify them and fix them. > > > > Most of us do understand this and we appreciate all the work done by the > > developers, package maintainers and documentation writers. We also like > > KDE, why would we use it if we didn't? > > > > However, the present situation in a core utility, PIM, risks making > > people leave KDE for other systems. After all PIM is not just any > > program, it's where I keep all my personal information! > > > > > I know some people are annoyed, but try to be rational about this. As > > > long as some of us can say 'it works for me', we have to accept that > > > the cause of problems may not be in the actual software package. > > > > The last couple of months or so I have silently followed the discussions > > about the implementation of Akonadi on this list and avoided the testing > > repository. This is my production system and I want it to be as stable as > > possible. Last week I upgraded to 4.4.1 from stable. After a lot of work > > and following the advise given by you and others I now _seem_ to have a > > stable "Personal Contacts" address-book where I can add, remove and edit > > contacts. Somehow they also are saved although they don't show up in > > ~/.local/share/contacts/ until later. > > > > If I click on an email-address in AddressBook a "new mail" window in > > Kmail opens with the address in the to-field just as expected. If, on > > the other hand, I open a "new mail" window from Kmail and try to select > > a contact I'm presented a list which reflects the situation before the > > migration to Akonadi. Any changes or new entries are not there! I guess, > > without knowing, that Kmail still reads the old > > ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf while Akonadi only updates > > ~/.local/share/contacts/ . > > > > Using Kmail gradually becomes much harder as more and more contacts are > > added or changed. You now have to look up each contact manually in > > AddressBook instead of just typing the name in the to-field. Even worse, > > as you loose track of which addresses have changed you risk using > > outdated addresses! > > > > How can an update be pushed as "stable" from upstream with a regression > > like this? > > Indeed, this release was the second worst one after 4.0 release - mostly > due to Aconadi. I like Akonadi ideas, I'm big fan of it but... We should > push upstream to do more work on the release testing (we try to help as > much as possible through packaging beta stuff etc.). > > Do you experience this bug - KMail starts in session but before it's ready > Akonadi says, it's stopping itself. KMail exits, has to be started manually > again (same for KAddressBook) etc. Do we have bug report for this? Upstream > bug report? My colleague next to me experience the same problem. If there's > no bug, I'll report one. > Yep... I experience this bug all the time. It essentially tells me it can't find some resource and then quits. Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
