Eli Wapniarski wrote: > Eli > I sympathize with your exasperation. I am a longtime fedora and foss consumer and fedora tester -- when I am not so stubborn as not to submit a bug report ;-) It appears to me that your concerns are ones regarding software programming, not regarding packaging. It seems that the ball is now rolling. Hopefully, it will roll in such a way as to satisfy all our needs and expectations. Personally, I had hoped that new packages/releases would end up in updates-testing sooner, circumventing kde-redhat, but, if I understand all that has been written recently, there will still be kde-redhat for the newest releases, and also, as I upgrade to the latest release the day it comes out -- usually as soon as the alpha comes out, so I will likely still be accessing the latest as soon as it becomes available. If things end up moving too slowly, there will likely be a packager somewhere who will set up a new repo, so all is not lost. Hopefully, fedora will remain that packager, as it would be best to keep things under one hood for compatibility's sake (remember what it was like when Dag was packaging, too, and the conflict nightmare we went through?).