One more call for discussion around another proposal that came out of FUDCon Toronto. Short version of this is that we'd consider slowing down updates a step, esp for the second half of a fedora release's lifetime, and to limit kde 4.x-type upgrades to at most 1 per release. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal Whatever we decide, increasing our transparency by documenting our update practices will hopefully help shape everyone''s plans and expectations. As it is, seems these vary wildly. -- Rex