On Thursday 04 March 2010 14:05:32 Martin Kho wrote: > > On Thursday 04 March 2010 13:13:18 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > On 03/04/2010 05:13 PM, Juha Tuomala wrote: > > > > This is exactly kind off stuff I don't have time now to solve, > > > > since I need to work. If such upgrade would have been put to > > > > next coming release, I could have upgraded when I have time, > > > > some weekend - it would not interrupted my working and ruin my > > > > day. > > > > > > Yes and it does happen now and then that updates like these cause end > > > users some pain and while some users love to tinker and play with new > > > features others see it as a hindrance even if it is purely enhancement > > > with no regressions because even UI changes cause disruption in > > > workflow setting aside all the possibility of regressions and I dont > > > believe that Fedora has the right balance between innovation and > > > stability (not merely robustness but any change for that matter) at > > > the moment (CentOS is far removed and rawhide is far too bleeding > > > edge) > > > > > > Whether it would be a separate backports repo or merely some more > > > conservativeness in our update stream needs to be discussed and the > > > current discussion has brought up very polarised opinions and at this > > > point it would be useful to discuss detailed proposals than > > > continuously repeating the same points in a circle > > > > > > For your specific case please file bug reports > > > > We (some KDE SIG people) are currently working on so called stability > > proposal [1]. That means one bigger update per release as KDE schedules > > are not in sync with Fedora releases. So this means - Fn release of > > Fedora is getting updates and users will get fresh software (rawhide is > > not an option), Fn-1 is considered as stable, without any "mayor" > > updates but it's still quite fresh so users don't have (are not forced) > > to switch to brand new release, probably breaking more than just update. > > > > One of reasons we can be now much more conservative is that KDE is now in > > very good shape and few releases ago we couldn't let users with for > > example 4.0, 4.1 releases. Now it's not so important to do big steps as > > changes are not so visible > > > > FKDESCo is going to vote probably on next meeting, Tuesday 09 14:00 UTC. > > So please, Fedora KDE users - comment these changes! We're working for > > you! CC'ing kde at lists.fpo. > > > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal > > Hi, > > To me, its good to hear that KDE SIG is choosing quality above regular - > sometimes dirty - updates. Toyota can tell exactly what happens when you > neglect quality :-) It's still regular - but not so often -> more time to do it properly. > Martin Kho > > > Jaroslav > > > > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > kde mailing list > kde at lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org -- Jaroslav ?ezn?k <jreznik at redhat.com> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/
