> On Thursday 04 March 2010 13:13:18 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 03/04/2010 05:13 PM, Juha Tuomala wrote: > > > This is exactly kind off stuff I don't have time now to solve, > > > since I need to work. If such upgrade would have been put to > > > next coming release, I could have upgraded when I have time, > > > some weekend - it would not interrupted my working and ruin my > > > day. > > > > Yes and it does happen now and then that updates like these cause end > > users some pain and while some users love to tinker and play with new > > features others see it as a hindrance even if it is purely enhancement > > with no regressions because even UI changes cause disruption in workflow > > setting aside all the possibility of regressions and I dont believe that > > Fedora has the right balance between innovation and stability (not > > merely robustness but any change for that matter) at the moment (CentOS > > is far removed and rawhide is far too bleeding edge) > > > > Whether it would be a separate backports repo or merely some more > > conservativeness in our update stream needs to be discussed and the > > current discussion has brought up very polarised opinions and at this > > point it would be useful to discuss detailed proposals than continuously > > repeating the same points in a circle > > > > For your specific case please file bug reports > > We (some KDE SIG people) are currently working on so called stability > proposal [1]. That means one bigger update per release as KDE schedules > are not in sync with Fedora releases. So this means - Fn release of Fedora > is getting updates and users will get fresh software (rawhide is not an > option), Fn-1 is considered as stable, without any "mayor" updates but > it's still quite fresh so users don't have (are not forced) to switch to > brand new release, probably breaking more than just update. > > One of reasons we can be now much more conservative is that KDE is now in > very good shape and few releases ago we couldn't let users with for > example 4.0, 4.1 releases. Now it's not so important to do big steps as > changes are not so visible > > FKDESCo is going to vote probably on next meeting, Tuesday 09 14:00 UTC. So > please, Fedora KDE users - comment these changes! We're working for you! > CC'ing kde at lists.fpo. > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Stability_Proposal Hi, To me, its good to hear that KDE SIG is choosing quality above regular - sometimes dirty - updates. Toyota can tell exactly what happens when you neglect quality :-) Martin Kho > > Jaroslav > > > Rahul
