Linuxguy123 wrote: > I normally wouldn't indulge this behavior, Then please don't! Leave! It would do us all a favor! > a) As far as I know huge changes were made to the KDE multimedia > subsystem, aka Phonon. Nonsense. Phonon 4.3.80 was pushed weeks ago. Phonon didn't change at all with the KDE 4.4 update. > CPU usage was not high before the KDE 4.4 update. It is after. Are you sure there wasn't a Flash update like the one Rex Dieter is mentioning? Flash is the likely culprit for your issue. > There were no changes to nspluginviewer or the nvidia driver during this > period. This statement just shows your ignorance: 1. nspluginviewer is a component of Konqueror, so it did in fact change, 2. but all nspluginviewer really does is bring up plugins. The Flash plugin in particular, a known CPU eater. And nspluginviewer has very little code, I strongly doubt anything in nspluginviewer itself uses any noticeable amount of CPU. (Note that nspluginviewer is not the same as nspluginwrapper, those are completely different pieces of software.) > b) I have reported a number of bug that were shut down due to "the use > of the proprietary nvidia driver" where it was ultimately found that the > driver had nothing to do with it. > > Specifically, at least these two. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504173 You say these issues just disappeared, so nobody knows what component they were in in the first place. There's no evidence that they were not, in fact, driver issues. > c) We don't expect anyone to be able to troubleshoot issues within > proprietary software. But we also don't think that issues should just > be written off carte blanc when a proprietary driver is involved. > > Given the number of changes made in the Phonon effort and the fact that > neither nspluginview and kmod-nvidia changed, what do you think the > chance of the issue lying in Phonon is ? Extremely low. Your premises are false. See above. This seems to be a Flash issue. Complain to Adobe. > d) Open source software is about personal FREEDOM. The freedom to use > whatever we want, according to our criteria. I feel it is unfair to > outright criticize people for using proprietary components where they > feel they must. The "freedom" to enslave yourself is not true freedom, you must resist proprietary software to be truly free. Kevin Kofler
