Eli Wapniarski wrote: >> You can try the ESD backend (wine-esd), which uses PulseAudio's ESD >> compatibility layer (pulseaudio-esound-compat). > > Does not work It does work for me. I tested it with the Window$ version of TiEmu and sound worked just fine. > Redhat 8 integrated the menu system for both kde and gnome. And it was about time they did that. Having only KDE apps show up in the KDE menu was really broken (and kappfinder was a lousy workaround). I don't miss the times where you had to register any application twice for it to show up in both desktops' menus. The shared freedesktop.org menu is what we have now. Nobody complains about it anymore. > There was nothing you could do customize the kde menu. That's not true, kmenuedit was always shipped. > The work that Rex tiresleslly devoted himself made KDE work in Redhat. > Anything that smelled of Gnome / KDE integration was seperated out and > recompiled to break it and leave KDE independant to allow kde to function > as kde. It was a long road until reintigration with Fedora proper and a > commitment that kde would continue to work as well. I've been using Than's packages until the merge, I've never had any real problems with them and there was no such "GNOME / KDE integration" which wasn't also upstream and in kde-redhat. I was also there when the merge happened, there wasn't any "GNOME / KDE integration" being removed. There were some default settings which differed among the 2 builds (I did a diff of the 2 versions of the settings and we discussed the changes, but they were nothing major, both package sets mostly used the upstream defaults), a few useful patches missing in one or the other package set and the occasional optional component enabled only in kde-redhat, but the major differences people kept talking about did not actually exist. > However, we have ssen more and more with network manager, Should be fixed now (F9/F10/F11 updates, F12 Rawhide) with kde-plasma-networkmanagement. The actual issue there was lack of integration (forcing us to fallback to a GNOME component), not too much integration. > packagekit Fixed in F9 updates and F10 (and everything newer) with kpackagekit. Once again, lack of integration forced the temporary use of a GNOME component (which replaced our older distro-specific and also GTK+-based tools, so this wasn't really a regression), the problem is now solved. > probably the same is true with gnome components for policy manager You probably mean PolicyKit. We ship PolicyKit-kde in F11. There too, the GNOME component is no longer needed thanks to our integration work. (That said, we need to do more of this for F12 due to PolicyKit 1.) > It would seem that the same is currently true for pulse audio. PulseAudio just works in KDE 4. Your issues with PulseAudio have nothing to do with KDE. Kevin Kofler