On Saturday 30 May 2009 23:21:36 Anne Wilson wrote: > On Saturday 30 May 2009 18:03:19 Eli Wapniarski wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Just installed the Beta from unstable. Seriously... has anybody actually > > seen bug fixes? Or are the KDE developers simply adding features that add > > more bugs? > > > > > Dozens of them. Anything particular in mind? > Here: These are the ones I've checked at first glance. Almost all of them Konqueror related, And none of the Konqueror bugs have been addressed. Leave a this for starters. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157454 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172534 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106367 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157481 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157483 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167825 The last on complains about the lack of capability to stretch panels across 2 monitors. And this lack, in my desktop environment, represents a real useabiltiy bug. Serious enough for me to move to xfce which does this flawlessly. As for konqueror vs firefox. Look firefox is not a kde app. Its mime types automatically link to gtk apps. Currently and more and more tentatively I use kde. I do not want to use gtk apps to read pdf or view multimedia or evolution and I do not want to have to manually reconfigure the gazillion or so mime types to open kde apps. If I want to use gtk apps I would use a gtk based windows manager. I use kde and a core application is very badly broken. Look I need to say this; plasmoids are a very very nice idea. They look great and make the desktop look cool. The things is the desktop is next to useless. It gets covered up as soon as you use your computer to do anything at all. Unless of course the way you use your computer is to simply stare at your cool desktop. Heck I even have a package out there of a plasmoid. But being the end all and be all of windows management is a colossal mistake. Panels are the only app that makes the desktop constantly useful. Applets (ok plasmoids now) on panels when designed correctly places functionality, accessibility and information immediately available with a single click or quick glance regardless of what else is going on (except for full screen games :) ). People use browsers, word processors, games, email client, im clients etc. The first app that gets opened makes the desktop disappear. If the apps don't work what good is the desktop other than to look pretty but dumb. I do not need my desktop or apps to be a huge blonde moment (male or female take your pick). I need to get the things done. If kde developers want to jerk around they're bored and get things half finished and then say brand new here it is. This whole process has been one the least professional processes I have been through in computing in a very long time. (Fedora / KDE people notwithstanding in this tirade they as usual do a superb job) then ignore their user base, well then there will be defection. Which by the way I am seriously considering and trust me when I say this is painful for me since I have been a loyal and passionate kde user for years as Rex can attest. But enough is enough. If I wanted to install super karamba I would have installed super karamba. Now KDE has pushed it down my throat in the form of plasmoids the very least they could do is have the thing work the way it should. 4.3 is a personal milestone for me. After a tirade like this one, to be fair I will wait till 4.4 and leave without a whisper (I'm sure some are saying yea!!! :) ) . KDE either works the way it should or I will have to go elsewhere. Thanks for Listening :) Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
