On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 11:17 -0400, Patrick Boutilier wrote: >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 07:33 +0000, Jos? Matos wrote: >> >> On Thursday 05 March 2009 01:58:40 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >>> I don't question any of that, in fact it's clear to me that I won't be >> >>> testing the thing myself, but I think my original point is being missed, >> >>> to wit: would it not have been useful to include a brief summary of what >> >>> the package is about so those of use who are not interested can know >> >>> we're not interested? >> >> Some (if not all) of those issues have been discussed on this list since the >> >> beginning of kde-4.2.0 testing although the resulting explanation was not as >> >> detailed as it happened on this thread. >> > >> > The very first reference I can find to either soprano or sesame on this >> > list is Rex's message. Perhaps you can point out some earlier discussion >> > here? >> >> >> I believe he meant in general. Not specifically about this package. > > That's not at all clear. He talks about "those issues" and "the > resulting explanation ... on this thread" without defining which issues > and what explanation. > > Never mind. > > poc > I agree with Patrick O'Callaghan on these kind of situations. I see so many emails, especially in fedora-devel, that assume too much about the reader. I even voiced this once. The general expectation is for the reader to make a search himself if he doesn't know the topic. ... which I find disturbing. It is really hard for a new contributor to get used to the jargons used in these email lists, to the point where it becomes discouraging, sometimes. Well, maybe I spent too much time in the academic world, where everything needs to be precise and unambiguous. I do believe that everything non-trivial should be either explained or linked to somewhere where it is explained. To define the term "non-trivial" in this context, whenever I am writing emails, I tend to think how I would explain things to my imaginary mother, whose only knowledge is the Fedora guidelines. Orcan