On Tuesday 03 February 2009 10:14:20 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Eli Wapniarski wrote: > > Absolutely agree. There is no legal liability issue in every country > > other than in China. Which means that if you include the flags people > > living in the Peoples Republic of China will not be able to legally use > > Fedora. Which means that any maverick out there could potentially face > > prosecution depending on the mood of the authorities over there or, > > potentially have every download site with a Fedora distro blocked by The > > Great Firewall of China. Meaning the people over there won't be able to > > get Fedora at all. Putting the flags in a third party repository allows > > us users to install the flags if we want them (we do want them don't we). > > If a maverick chooses to install them, then they can do so with eyes wide > > open if, of course, The Great Firewall of China will allow them access to > > the repositories. > > > > I realize for most of us it's a freedom of speech issue. I agree it sucks > > big time. But, we don't live in China. And with 3rd party repos we can be > > "polite" while having our cake and eating it too. The Chinese can get > > Fedora without us picking a fight we can't win. > > But a lot of countries ban things, for example some countries ban games or > at least certain kinds of games, others ban cryptography or some kinds of > cryptography etc. If we remove everything banned in some country, what do > we have left to ship? > > Kevin Kofler Like I said. I agree with this 100%. I just wanted to point the potential consequences of including the flags in the main distro. I for one will live quite happily with whatever decision the steering committee makes as I personally will not be negatively affected by their inclusion. And if they are excluded, then I will quite happily continue to get them from the extra package provided by rpmfusion. Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.