On Tuesday 27 January 2009 21:57:09 Arthur Pemberton wrote: > That's the problem, people want stuff that they can't provide > themselves and goes against what the ones doing the work decide to do. Forgive me Arthur but that's just plain rude. Software is meant to be used by users. If I'm misunderstanding what you're implying by the your post then please forgive me. But even the most intelligent and best informed group of people can make mistakes in judgment. The most famous examples is the Bay of Pigs fiasco. User's can't provide the stuff that developers can provide because they aren't developers. And developers should expect some negative feedback when they don't meet users expectations, or go off in directions that proves to be in error regarding the user experience. This is not a slight regarding the hard work and skill that goes into development. And no... you can't please all the people all the time. But us users are the ones that actually use that which is developed and we should be respected. That we didn't provide more feedback is our error. But on the other hand, we really didn't have that much experience on which to base an opinion other than the quality and skill that went into KDE 3.x. More than likely because of the great programming that went into KDE 3.x and the hype surrounding 4.x we all were expecting the first release to on par. And a lot of us were disappointed that it wasn't. And in many ways still isn't. But it is definitely getting there. To paraphrase Rex in a previous post. There really isn't any point to crying over spilled milk. Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.