Anne Wilson wrote: > IMO Fedora made one mistake - a bad one, but only one. They did not shout > loud enough that you should stick with F8 unless the Live CD convinced you > that you could live with 4.0, new as it was. You're right there. But KDE upstream has to be blamed for the same thing, they also didn't warn enough about 4.0. Still, we probably do have to take some blame for not getting the word out widely enough. (People would upgrade and only then come to us to complain and get told they should have stayed with F8 until 4.1 for their usecase.) > I also believe that if Fedora had not done the 4.0 release there would not > have been enough feedback to upstream to get things moving as fast as they > have done. Indeed, a lot of the feedback upstream got in the 4.0 times was from Fedora users. That said, some users also got 4.0 from other distros, e.g. the Kubuntu Hardy KDE 4 Remix or OpenSUSE (though the Plasma they shipped as "4.0" was really a mix of 4.0, 4.1 and custom hacks - we cherry-picked some of their stuff, but they had more - their "4.1" Plasma is also a mix of 4.1, 4.2 and custom hacks), or built it directly from SVN. Kevin Kofler