On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:55 +0100, Eelko Berkenpies wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:54:04 +0000, Anne Wilson > <cannewilson at googlemail.com> > wrote: > > On Friday 16 January 2009 00:22:25 Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 00:38 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> > On Thursday 15 January 2009, Linuxguy123 wrote: > >> > > There was a lot of user frustration that prior versions of KDE > didn't > >> > > work properly because of issues attributed to nvidia. I think its > >> > > our > >> > > responsibility to test/work this out in the release candidate and > >> > > make > >> > > sure that things do work properly now. > >> > > >> > It is not. Proprietary drivers are not supported. > >> > > >> > I don't see why we should put stuff on the live CD which are not part > >> > of > >> > Fedora. We want you to test Fedora, not some proprietary crap. > >> > >> BECAUSE YOUR USERS NEED IT TO FULLY USE KDE ! > >> > > No they don't. Please stop assuming that your preference is a general > > need. > > > > Anne > > And I would like to add to the whole issue (just add, it's not my intention > to throw oil on the fire :)) that a company like nVidia or ATI should pay a > little bit more attention to their legacy drivers (and Linux userbase in > general). I have a fairly new PC at home (not older then 3, 3.5 years) > having a nVidia FX 5500 card (and a FX 5200 at work) and with both > computers I'm having graphics issues within KDE. > > The new 180.x drivers are only based on the 6000+ range of the nVidia cards > and they seem to contain the needed fixes for KDE to run (really) smoothly. I think KDE has painted itself into a corner on this issue. I bet half the computers out there aren't going to run KDE properly. > And the same for ATI (I have a 9200SE as an alternative at work), they > haven't been updating their legacy drivers since 2006. Hence the fact that > they don't even supports resolutions over 1280x1024. > > By Google-ing, you'll easily find out that there are quite a few people out > there having these problems and they haven't been solved since they were > initially reported. The only one making a little bit of progress was nVidia > back in the first quarter of 2008 by releasing an updated 173.14.x driver > solving a few of the problems for me. > > Therefor I have to agree with Kevin on this one. Doing a specific > (Fedora)KDE release for a wouldn't work (for me at least), there still > would be certain problems until the manufacturer decides to fix their > drivers. In general KDE is running smoothly, keeping the driver > restrictions and issues in mind, and I don't see the need of having card > specific distro's. Just to clarify, it wouldn't be a card specific release. It would be a release that has drivers for nVidia cards in addition to whatever it had before.
